Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
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Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
When purchasing (and training) with an ecollar, there are many options for levels of stimulation for both continuous and momentary. Question is, how many levels is enough? I see some with 6 cont., and upwards of who knows what. What will I need for my dog, or I should say, what is recommended?
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Re: Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
6 is perfectly fine for most dogs
only if your training having some of the lower end levels and higher end is better but generally the average person only uses about 1 level and the occasional higher level that maybe required to get a dogs attention and go back to their one level
I know many who have never moved the knob for years or have rarely had to push a button but have the collars on just incase
only if your training having some of the lower end levels and higher end is better but generally the average person only uses about 1 level and the occasional higher level that maybe required to get a dogs attention and go back to their one level
I know many who have never moved the knob for years or have rarely had to push a button but have the collars on just incase
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Re: Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
I like more levels of continuous than momentary. I also do not like a rheostat(Thanks Arlette and Rick ), it can move and you have to look at your unit, so to speak, to see what level you're at. If you have to look it's to late. I use the Tritronics Pro 100 6 levels momentary 18 continuous. When you practice a lot with a particular e-collar you get to know where you are without looking at it. I practice setting the level without looking when I'm not working dogs. t pays off to know your gear intimately.
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Re: Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
I wasn't sure as I was looking at the TT G2 Upland and it has 6 cont. levels. I'm interested in the beeper (hunt some pretty heavy cover), but I didn't know if I should upgrade to the Pro 100 for the extra cont. levels of stimulation, then add a beeper at a later time. I don't have a problem dropping $500 for a collar as it is my dog and I want quality as I don't want to keep buying.
Is there any real difference between the Pro 100 and G2 other than the levels of stimulation? I can't see where there is...
Is there any real difference between the Pro 100 and G2 other than the levels of stimulation? I can't see where there is...
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Re: Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
I agree. I use the TT for my GSP's. Basically it is at 1 level 90% of the time, but an occasional bump up for an "attention grabber" during training. It's all about understanding your dog and the knowledge / comfort level of using the collar. The beeper is a must with a heavy cover situation.
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Re: Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
Maybe I'm just doing it wrong, but with my female, level 1 works in the yard or in just about any relatively-controlled situation - ie, close bird work, easy stuff where the bird doesn't run right AT her, etc. But when she's amped up and really mails it in, she can run through a level 6, (out of 10) like it wasn't even on.
I'm one of those guys that just HAS to know, so I've tried the collar on my leg and know for a fact that level 6 does NOT feel good.
I'm one of those guys that just HAS to know, so I've tried the collar on my leg and know for a fact that level 6 does NOT feel good.
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Re: Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
hehe!! My boy was running through the red button without batting an eye for a while. He's over that now....now he's VERY careful to NOT make a mistake Heck, he backed a deer last week!phermes1 wrote:Maybe I'm just doing it wrong, but with my female, level 1 works in the yard or in just about any relatively-controlled situation - ie, close bird work, easy stuff where the bird doesn't run right AT her, etc. But when she's amped up and really mails it in, she can run through a level 6, (out of 10) like it wasn't even on.
I'm one of those guys that just HAS to know, so I've tried the collar on my leg and know for a fact that level 6 does NOT feel good.
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Re: Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
I have a TT Flyway Special that has 18 levels of momentary and 6 levels of continuous stim. I tend to use momentary stim much more often than continuous in my training so the Flyway Special configuration works great for me.
For all intents and purposes my unit is on level 1 or 2 unless the dog is chasing off game, at which time it goes on 6 and the dog gets and 8 second high hard one.
Someone else alluded to the desirability of using your e-collar transmitter without looking at it. You need to know exactly where the buttons are, so that you can concentrate on the dog and if need be, apply a correction at the precise instant it is needed. The Tritronics unit allows me to do just that. It hands from a holdster off my shoulder and adjusted so the buttons are right at my fingertips. I can tell, without looking, whether I am touching the continuous or momentary stim buttons.
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For all intents and purposes my unit is on level 1 or 2 unless the dog is chasing off game, at which time it goes on 6 and the dog gets and 8 second high hard one.
Someone else alluded to the desirability of using your e-collar transmitter without looking at it. You need to know exactly where the buttons are, so that you can concentrate on the dog and if need be, apply a correction at the precise instant it is needed. The Tritronics unit allows me to do just that. It hands from a holdster off my shoulder and adjusted so the buttons are right at my fingertips. I can tell, without looking, whether I am touching the continuous or momentary stim buttons.
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Re: Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
All level 1's are not equal!! I train on level 2 of50 on my DT SPT 2400 series. I had a TT and level 1 on it would equal about 8-10 on my DT. I like having a lot of lower levels. I believe lower levels allow you to keep more style in the dog.
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Re: Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
I also agree that the TT with 6 levels is more than enough. When all is said and done, most dog's work best AL levels 2 or three on a TT 100. Use too low a level and you create a dog with slow compliance and electrical toleration. Use too high a level and the problems that crop up are too numerous to mention. Always err to the low.
The only time I use continuous is for "whoa". Other than that, I up the level and use a nick.
The only time I use continuous is for "whoa". Other than that, I up the level and use a nick.
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Re: Levels of stimulation on ecollars...
I like the option of having some lower levels and like having more then just 6 choices.
All I use is the continuous button and I do like having a beeper for the heavy cover I hunt in the grouse woods up here.
I tend to run the beeper in locate only mode as I prefer not to hear the constant noice but everyone has there preferance.
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All I use is the continuous button and I do like having a beeper for the heavy cover I hunt in the grouse woods up here.
I tend to run the beeper in locate only mode as I prefer not to hear the constant noice but everyone has there preferance.
BTW, great looking dog in your avatar MTO4Life !!!
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