Seeking your recommendations re: which training book

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Seeking your recommendations re: which training book

Post by longarm » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:38 pm

I have had Labs for the last 40 years or so and am wanting to get a GSP or GWP.
Which book(s) would you recommend as the best re: training a GSP?

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Post by Cajun Casey » Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:12 pm

For what do you wish to train your dog? Strictly upland hunting? Versatile work? Testing or trialing?
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Post by pointshootretrieve » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:18 pm

The orange book by American Hunting Dog Club Erv Jones and Don Smith

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Post by gonehuntin' » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:03 pm

The NAVHDA Green Book is still a classic and still very good. I like the Orange book as well. It is more involved, but more up to date.
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Re: Seeking your recommendations re: which training book

Post by longarm » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:27 pm

I should have been more specific: I want to train solely for hunting upland and ducks.
Thanks again

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Post by Cajun Casey » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:38 pm

The NAVDHA Green Book, available through their website,or Chuck Johnson's Training the Versatile Hunting Dog.
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Post by AzDoggin » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:09 pm

Cajun Casey wrote:The NAVDHA Green Book, available through their website,or Chuck Johnson's Training the Versatile Hunting Dog.
Both good. If you get the Green Book, I would highly recommend getting the DVD along with it as well. You'll see Bodo Winterheldt (founder of NAVHDA) training some basics.

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Post by longarm » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:12 am

Thanks much, will find those.
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Post by gittrdonebritts » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:15 am

for any pointing dog training I'd go with Mark's book "Favorite ways to train your bird dog" its simple easy to understand plenty of pic's (lord knows most men need pic's to stay interested) and there are 2-4 different ways to teach the basics its a great read.

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Post by longarm » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:58 am

Thanks again. I ordered several of these, time to do my homework.

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Post by RoostersMom » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:54 pm

A Perfect Start and A Perfect Finish are excellent. They are DVD's.

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Post by 4dabirds » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:34 pm

A good book that deals with dog behavior is Culture Clash by Jean Donaldson. It will help you understand how dogs think and react to training. With this knowledge you will be able to understand what makes a good training program.http://www.georgehickox.com/about_georg ... icles.html Check this link these are published training articles by george hickox.

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Post by crackerd » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:56 am

longarm wrote:I should have been more specific: I want to train solely for hunting upland and ducks.
Thanks again
Longarm, what level did you train your Labs to? - if it was anything competitive, and that's where your expectations are with your new GSP, be advised that the pointing dog books won't go into a fraction of the detail for what retriever training entails. I said details about "training," people, not "pet whisperer" mumbo-jumbo (or, er, "singing" to your pointers). Though as GH and someone else noted, Training the Sporting Dog is a solid bet that spans the gamut for what you're looking to do with a GSP. But I would augment it, if you have familiarity with training Labs to handle, with Volume 1 of Mike Lardy's articles written for Retriever Journal, and also Evan Graham's work (Evan's been giving seminars to NAVHDA chapters for a while now).

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Re: Seeking your recommendations re: which training book

Post by CowboyBirdDogs » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:54 am

Now that I've decided to train my own, I'm going to get some of these books as well.

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Re: Seeking your recommendations re: which training book

Post by volraider » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:01 pm

Training with Mo is about the best step by step book you can buy.


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Re: Seeking your recommendations re: which training book

Post by volraider » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:01 pm

Training with Mo is about the best step by step book you can buy.


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Re: Seeking your recommendations re: which training book

Post by Meller » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:40 pm

+1 Training with Mo.

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