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Any opinions on which one to use for a pointing lab? To me, I was almost thinking that "here" could be to close to "heel", even though both commands would probably accomplish the same thing. Thanks in advance.

It doesnt really matter, I use farphignuegan.

My dogs "pee" and "Poop" on command so I certainly don't want them to "come" on command. I use "here". But then again I have females!!!

It's personal preference. I use "here" since it seems to be easier for them to understand when yelling from across a field.

Here and heel both work for me without any confusion

I use "here" because it seems to carry easier at distance. Come is pretty hard to draw out.

A lab is a lab. Use which ever one you want to use and be consistent. If you are consistent with the command the dog will know what you want.

My note is for Hear. It carries well across the field sharp and to the point. Now I have a real problem with Whoa. That one sounds a lot like No. So I don't use Whoa.

zigzag wrote:My note is for Hear. It carries well across the field sharp and to the point. Now I have a real problem with Whoa. That one sounds a lot like No. So I don't use Whoa.

I don't use no.

Munster wrote:I use "here" because it seems to carry easier at distance.

100% exactly correct. HERE carries long distance much better than COME.
If you pronounce things properly, the dog will not get close sounding words confused.


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I like this post. I've been wondering which of these to use and thought "here" and "heel" were too similar. I guess it's not a problem at all.

ACooper wrote:I don't use no.

What word do you use instead of "no"? I've read using "aaaaaa" is good to use.

If the dog is at such a distance that it doesn't know what your yelling, you should have already went to your whistle.

royta wrote:

ACooper wrote:I don't use no.

What word do you use instead of "no"? I've read using "aaaaaa" is good to use.

I use leave it.

To the op's question it doesn't matter. Use which ever you feel comfortable with.

royta wrote:What word do you use instead of "no"? I've read using "aaaaaa" is good to use.

I use "hey, hey, hey" and if they don't respond by the third "hey" they get a heavy dose of the ecollar. Funny how often I get to the second "hey" and the dog is changing its mind.

I use a version of ah ah. But even it's used rarely and only at close range.

I never liked no I think it sounds to much like whoa so I use NINE German for no

If he's close I just snap my fingers but if he's too far away I just use a sharp no. My whoa is much more soothing.

nikegundog wrote:If the dog is at such a distance that it doesn't know what your yelling, you should have already went to your whistle.

Exactly right. And if the dog is far enough out that it confuses the "r" in here with the "l" in heel, big deal. All it's got to hear is the start of an "H"-word to know it needs to be returning to you pronto.

LabGuy wrote:Any opinions on which one to use for a pointing lab? To me, I was almost thinking that "here" could be to close to "heel", even though both commands would probably accomplish the same thing. Thanks in advance.

If you're planning to become an AdvancedLabGuy, you should know that retriever trainers often use both "heel" and "here" one right after the other to push or pull a dog in a different direction when lining it up for either a blind retrieve or sometimes a marked retrieve.

MG

For me COME means come too me I want to touch you.
HERE means go with me or move too the front.

Without a Here command, {go with me}, Dog is at 2oclock and I want him to go too 10 oclock, we would typically say COME.
I really don`t want the dog too Come to me, I want the dog to head over too 10oclock. But the dog dead heads back, maybe does a drive by and then heads to the front again. If the dog reads my body language and sees me heading to 10 oclock he will usually head to the front of me on his own. But when I give the Come command and he moves to the front of me, he quickly learns that sometimes he has to Come to me{I want too touch you} and sometimes he doesn`t. One command with two different meanings.
Hope this makes sense, as I may not have explained it clear enough.

If you're planning to become an AdvancedLabGuy, you should know that retriever trainers often use both "heel" and "here" one right after the other to push or pull a dog in a different direction when lining it up for either a blind retrieve or sometimes a marked retrieve.

MG

I do plan on doing advanced retriever training. I think I am going to plan on using "here" rather than "come".

Thank you everyone for the info. Trying to make sure I make the correct decisions while he is a pup in order to build a good foundation for later advanced training.

whoadog wrote:

royta wrote:What word do you use instead of "no"? I've read using "aaaaaa" is good to use.

I use "hey, hey, hey" and if they don't respond by the third "hey" they get a heavy dose of the ecollar. Funny how often I get to the second "hey" and the dog is changing its mind.

By chance where you taught how to train dogs from Si Robertson?

Here or a triple blast from the whistle always worked for me

While 3 whistle blast carries best, and in the field I usually use it to get her back by me. However, when working close, I picked up my recall command from a lab show - "Place". In theory, "Place" and point where I want her and she goes there. In practice we haven't only gotten to which side of my body I want her on. Need to work on "that place over there" version a bit more.

As for "no", I use "leave it" or simply a nice growly "aahh".

Munster wrote:By chance where you taught how to train dogs from Si Robertson?

I'm afraid not. But, if he wrote a book about gundog training I have probably read it. Who is Si Robertson?

LabGuy wrote:I do plan on doing advanced retriever training. I think I am going to plan on using "here" rather than "come".
... Trying to make sure I make the correct decisions while he is a pup in order to build a good foundation for later advanced training.

This'll be a big help to you: http://cherylonloveland.com/www.cherylo ... tions.html

MG

Jagerdawg wrote:I never liked no I think it sounds to much like whoa so I use NINE German for no

"NINE" is also the German word for birth control



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topher40 wrote:It doesnt really matter, I use farphignuegan.

+1. use any word you want. Dogs don't know the English or any other language. I prefer "here".

Charlie

topher40 wrote:It doesnt really matter, I use farphignuegan.

+1. use any word you want. Dogs don't know the English or any other language. I prefer "here".

Charlie

I use "here" to call them in. I use "heel" to have them at my side and when we're walking. When running blinds/lining up, the labs also move left or right on "heel" or "here." I use "no" when I want them to stop WHATEVER they are doing. I use "whup" for "stop" with the pointy guys because a trainer we had used it and we just picked it up. I use "sit" for the labs, but they will also sit or stop on "whup" when all the dogs are out together and I want to stop the pointy guys. The pointy guys don't stop on "sit." My husband will sometimes say "come" and they all understand. I say "stay" to all of them when I need a "group stop." They can do whatever they like on "stay" (sit, lay down, stand) as long as they don't move anywhere.

One of the hardest things for me to do is be consistent with dog commands. I don't even wrap a sandwich the same two times in a row.

I'm from the hills of north Georgia. I say "comere" which means to come so I can touch you. I just whistle with my mouth to get them to come in my direction.

i use here, sound better,

Here means to come within a 10-15 yard radius Come means you better almost bump into me.
Its a proximity thing.

Jagerdawg wrote:I never liked no I think it sounds to much like whoa so I use NINE German for no

I think the word you are looking for is "NEIN", which is pronounced like the English word "nine".

FWIW,

I usually say "Come here"

SubMariner wrote:

Jagerdawg wrote:I never liked no I think it sounds to much like whoa so I use NINE German for no

I think the word you are looking for is "NEIN", which is pronounced like the English word "nine".

FWIW,

Lmao I literally woke up in bed that night and it popped in my head that I had spelled it wrong I just didn't have the initiative to go and edit it. I am glad someone reads my posts. Thank you for the laugh. Have a good day and happy hunting