Is it too Late?
Is it too Late?
My Setter will be 3 years old in February, but he isn't pointing and holding wild birds.. He'll point and hold on a planted bird (in a controlled situation on a check cord), but bumps and chases everything in the field. He'll flash point for a couple of seconds, but then is off on the chase. He's a big running dog, so getting to him to work with him is a challenge as he'll often times be 300 or 400 yards away when he finds birds. Would a couple of months with a Pro be worthwhile, or is it too late? I obviously don't have the expertise to solve the problem.
Re: Is it too Late?
Call John McGiltrot up in Montana, he does a great job. And works with a lot of Setters.
http://www.seranoakennels.com/
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Re: Is it too Late?
So his schooling went from A+ kindergarten (pointing on a cc) to failing post graduate work ( 400 yards out) with nothing in the middle?
Work him on planted birds in a controlled situation...cc, then dragging a cc, then you getting in front of him while he's on a cc, then do all that in a small area without the cc, then expand to larger areas. Condition him to an ecollar along the way, so you can correct him at a distance. Run him on wild birds as a training exercise so you can concentrate on training and aren't tempted to shoot busted birds. When he's as steady as you like, go hunting.
At three years old he'll be be able to take training, but don't be surprised if you have to back up a little bit down the road, because he might have the idea that he really likes things the way he's doing them now, and you'll need to reinforce the steadiness.
Good luck with your dog.
Work him on planted birds in a controlled situation...cc, then dragging a cc, then you getting in front of him while he's on a cc, then do all that in a small area without the cc, then expand to larger areas. Condition him to an ecollar along the way, so you can correct him at a distance. Run him on wild birds as a training exercise so you can concentrate on training and aren't tempted to shoot busted birds. When he's as steady as you like, go hunting.
At three years old he'll be be able to take training, but don't be surprised if you have to back up a little bit down the road, because he might have the idea that he really likes things the way he's doing them now, and you'll need to reinforce the steadiness.
Good luck with your dog.
Re: Is it too Late?
"He'll point and hold on a planted bird ." quote
not too late at all
not too late at all
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Re: Is it too Late?
get him whoa broke and stop the chase
- Donnytpburge
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Re: Is it too Late?
It's not to late.
some dogs are hard headed and need the old school method to break the chase.
Good luck.
Db
some dogs are hard headed and need the old school method to break the chase.
Good luck.
Db
- will-kelly
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Re: Is it too Late?
It may seem obvious but taking away the control point(check cord) is why the dog breaks. I would run the dog in the field on wild birds with the check cord.
- Work him on planted birds without the check cord.
Run him in wild birds with the check cord.
Once he's proven his steadiness Let him drag the chord.
Once he's proven on the dragged chord run him free.