Pointer hunting with flusher issues?
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:56 am
Hi - This is my first post on this forum. I hope you can help with this situation and questions.
First, a little background: I grew up hunting pheasants in the fields around our farm in MN. We mostly just walked fence rows, but we also had a friend with a Brittany. I absolutely loved watching her work and I've wanted a bird dog ever since. Fast forward a LONG time, and I finally got a GSP pup last fall. He comes from hunting stock and, this being my first dog and my excuse to get back into hunting, we have been pretty careful in training him. He has gone through intro and intermediate courses with a well-regarded training kennel near the Twin Cities, and even went in for a week of brush-up training just before hunting season. He was gun-broken with no issues at about 6 months, and completed field training successfully at about 12 months. His style is not going to win any field trials at this point, but the trainers liked him and judged him to be a perfectly competent gun dog. He also happens to be a fantastic companion for me and my family and just a barrel of fun.
Yesterday I took him out for the first time. Our hunting party was four people and four dogs. The other three dogs were all labs - 12, 6 and 2 years old, all with prior hunting experience.
My dog was very happy to be out with us, and with the other dogs. On the first couple passes through the field, he worked out in front of me at about 10-20 yards, but also zoomed around with the labs some. On the third pass, he started to look a little stressed/nervous and pretty much walked at heel. After a water break he perked up, but then on the next shot he scooted back about 10 yards and sat down. I should mention that I shot over him a couple times and the other three hunters each shot a couple times as well, so there had been plenty of gunfire by this time.
When he balked at my companion's shot, I took him back to the truck and kenneled him. No anger or scolding on my part, just a lot of reassurance and slow, quiet movement. At this point, I was just worried that I had set him back or even ruined him by giving him too much too soon. I went back with the rest of the hunting party for another few passes (it was a big field). As the other three hunters and dogs left for the last down & back pass, I went to check on my dog and let him out of the truck.
I thought I would just let him run around in the grass, smell the birds on the air, etc. However, he jumped out of the truck and immediately started working the ground in front of me, showing no fear or apprehension. We walked a couple hundred feet and he went from a quick trot to a hard locked point just as prettily as you could imagine. The bird flushed, I shot twice (missed - I'm rusty), and my dog ran happily in the direction of the flight, tracking well and turning back when it was clear I had missed, showing no signs of gun shyness. He continued to work with me until the other hunters and dogs got back from their end of the field and we packed it in.
So what happened here? Was this just a lot of stimulus for a green young dog? Should I back up and hunt in smaller parties or solo a couple times?
Are high energy flushing labs not very compatible with my more methodical slow-working GSP at this stage?
Thanks for your help!
First, a little background: I grew up hunting pheasants in the fields around our farm in MN. We mostly just walked fence rows, but we also had a friend with a Brittany. I absolutely loved watching her work and I've wanted a bird dog ever since. Fast forward a LONG time, and I finally got a GSP pup last fall. He comes from hunting stock and, this being my first dog and my excuse to get back into hunting, we have been pretty careful in training him. He has gone through intro and intermediate courses with a well-regarded training kennel near the Twin Cities, and even went in for a week of brush-up training just before hunting season. He was gun-broken with no issues at about 6 months, and completed field training successfully at about 12 months. His style is not going to win any field trials at this point, but the trainers liked him and judged him to be a perfectly competent gun dog. He also happens to be a fantastic companion for me and my family and just a barrel of fun.
Yesterday I took him out for the first time. Our hunting party was four people and four dogs. The other three dogs were all labs - 12, 6 and 2 years old, all with prior hunting experience.
My dog was very happy to be out with us, and with the other dogs. On the first couple passes through the field, he worked out in front of me at about 10-20 yards, but also zoomed around with the labs some. On the third pass, he started to look a little stressed/nervous and pretty much walked at heel. After a water break he perked up, but then on the next shot he scooted back about 10 yards and sat down. I should mention that I shot over him a couple times and the other three hunters each shot a couple times as well, so there had been plenty of gunfire by this time.
When he balked at my companion's shot, I took him back to the truck and kenneled him. No anger or scolding on my part, just a lot of reassurance and slow, quiet movement. At this point, I was just worried that I had set him back or even ruined him by giving him too much too soon. I went back with the rest of the hunting party for another few passes (it was a big field). As the other three hunters and dogs left for the last down & back pass, I went to check on my dog and let him out of the truck.
I thought I would just let him run around in the grass, smell the birds on the air, etc. However, he jumped out of the truck and immediately started working the ground in front of me, showing no fear or apprehension. We walked a couple hundred feet and he went from a quick trot to a hard locked point just as prettily as you could imagine. The bird flushed, I shot twice (missed - I'm rusty), and my dog ran happily in the direction of the flight, tracking well and turning back when it was clear I had missed, showing no signs of gun shyness. He continued to work with me until the other hunters and dogs got back from their end of the field and we packed it in.
So what happened here? Was this just a lot of stimulus for a green young dog? Should I back up and hunt in smaller parties or solo a couple times?
Are high energy flushing labs not very compatible with my more methodical slow-working GSP at this stage?
Thanks for your help!