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mm wrote:As for this neighbor. I would track him down and have a talk with him. You dont need to beat him up. But I would try and see if something could be worked out maybe a hunting arrangement or a time when running the dog wont impead his hunting. You may be able to work it out if not at least he will see you and know you know what he is doing.
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cjhills wrote:Generally there are two sides to every argument. It seems a little silly that you would not even know your next door neighbor on sight. If somebody is stealing stands in your neighborhood and wrecking things maybe you should call the law. A few well placed trail cameras can solve a lot of issues.
BuckeyeSteve wrote:cjhills wrote:Generally there are two sides to every argument. It seems a little silly that you would not even know your next door neighbor on sight. If somebody is stealing stands in your neighborhood and wrecking things maybe you should call the law. A few well placed trail cameras can solve a lot of issues.
I absolutely get this.... there are always two sides...not necessarily two reasonable or just sides, but two sides regardless. I can assure you I take great pride in being very un-Trump like....but I'm also not above calling someone a prick when they steal and destroy other's property. I'm a firm believer in having personal accountability and always looking inward first before blaming others for anything..... and I don't deny that my dog being 30 feet over a property line for 30 seconds is my responsibility. I just also think that making up a story about me hunting on his land and calling the game commission is not an equal and adequate response to that mistake. Until my dog ran past him in a stand (that I had no idea was there until that moment), there literally could not be a second side to the rest of the issues. My items and my neighbors property destroyed or stolen off of our own land, my tree cut down on my land.... having never had any past encounters with the person at all....it's hard for me to imagine what the other side of the argument would be. As far as silly to not know my neighbor.... Our houses are a half mile apart and there are 10 other neighbors along the road b/n our driveways. It's not like we live next to each other....the back of our properties just abut. The only way I'd ever meet him would be if I purposely go to his house to find him, or if I catch him trespassing. It's not an anti-social situation....it's just logistics.
In the end, you are correct that it is my responsible to keep my dog off the neighbors property. I still think he's a little a-hole. But...I'll go talk to his dad and figure something out. I'll probably ask the game commission officer to go with me.
averageguy wrote:Coming on 40 years of using Tri-Tronics and now Garmin products with near zero malfunctions. Have used them many times in sub-zero weather with no change in their function. I train my dogs to recall to the tone. With the combined GPS and Ecollar I can tell where my dog is and what he is doing, including giving me instant feedback on how he is responding to the tone when I issue a recall command with it. Which is nice. Once you get past the money you would enjoy every moment of the peace of mind and control the tool provides.
I recommend you stay on the high road with your neighbor for as long as you can. Going to meet and talk with them is basic and sounds like it is overdue. You have more to loose in your dog, and getting embattled with the wrong next door neighbor never works out well for an honorable person on the other side, even when you are in the right. Best to avoid it as much as possible and that starts with controlling our own actions and your dog.
Don't know how or why Trump got drug into this but it is par for the course that he gets blamed for things not of his doing, so why not this I guess!
cjhills wrote:BuckeyeSteve wrote:cjhills wrote:Generally there are two sides to every argument. It seems a little silly that you would not even know your next door neighbor on sight. If somebody is stealing stands in your neighborhood and wrecking things maybe you should call the law. A few well placed trail cameras can solve a lot of issues.
I absolutely get this.... there are always two sides...not necessarily two reasonable or just sides, but two sides regardless. I can assure you I take great pride in being very un-Trump like....but I'm also not above calling someone a prick when they steal and destroy other's property. I'm a firm believer in having personal accountability and always looking inward first before blaming others for anything..... and I don't deny that my dog being 30 feet over a property line for 30 seconds is my responsibility. I just also think that making up a story about me hunting on his land and calling the game commission is not an equal and adequate response to that mistake. Until my dog ran past him in a stand (that I had no idea was there until that moment), there literally could not be a second side to the rest of the issues. My items and my neighbors property destroyed or stolen off of our own land, my tree cut down on my land.... having never had any past encounters with the person at all....it's hard for me to imagine what the other side of the argument would be. As far as silly to not know my neighbor.... Our houses are a half mile apart and there are 10 other neighbors along the road b/n our driveways. It's not like we live next to each other....the back of our properties just abut. The only way I'd ever meet him would be if I purposely go to his house to find him, or if I catch him trespassing. It's not an anti-social situation....it's just logistics.
In the end, you are correct that it is my responsible to keep my dog off the neighbors property. I still think he's a little a-hole. But...I'll go talk to his dad and figure something out. I'll probably ask the game commission officer to go with me.
I am not accusing you of anything, it is just how things are. It is in your best interest to get along with your neighbor and control your dog. In a legal battle the dog owner and the dog always lose.
I do have one other question. In your comment about trying to turn off the light, I wondered why you need the light on. Were you running the dog after dark so the neighbor could not see him. I think Shags is right. He is very likely starting to run deer, it will get worse and the life expectancy of your dog will go down dramatically.
I have had people tell me their dogs didn't run deer when everybody seen them doing it. My kennel is on 2 acres for 25 years I have ran my dogs nearly every morning on neighboring property. I have had10 tom 20 dogs. Most of my neighbors are not dog people. All are deer hunters and would shoot my dogs in a heartbeat if caught running a deer in the winter. Which is legal in Mn.
I have 4 houses within 300 yards of mine. I take great care not to upset my neighbors. They could shut me down tomorrow if they wanted to...…..Cj
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