Mackenzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:43 pm
WOW!!!! That was amazing.
What type of training did you do to get the dogs to that point (Placeboards) ? Do you have any videos on that?
Placeboards are good Tools for Sit or delivery/Hold ,shaping behavior especially Wiggly excitable pup breeds like Cockers or Springers or often with other breeds who have been conditioned without intent by a handler who has allowed /or induced an excitable deliver ,but then again ,A placeboard can be a pallet or the back of a truck,or even a Kennel ! Creating the "Place" would have to be 'in place first'.
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Once you get the dogs
head in to thinking and believing that "Heel" is a Place to Be , rather than an activity of walking /moving next to you ,then You are half way towards achieving the DOG "Wanting to be in that place" .
Ever thought about Just standing still with the pup next to you with the lead/leash on the dog and doing absolutely nothing ,and re-inforce a previously known command like Sit (because every one can make a puppy sit with a sausage in their hand ..Can't they ? ) with a tiny bit of "Praise" for doing just that ? ..Like ..Yes,Good, or even a touch under the chin.
Obedience Heelwork (talking about Heelwork for competition in the Ring at Shows on green beize like Crufts ) Is all Good with a cupped hand and food treat with the dog Totally focused on the handlers movements and admire that stuff and great to watch ! , heck It is the basis of "Dancing with Dogs" and you can add Music later with good choreography and have a routine, but Gundogs and primarily speaking "
Retriever breeds"
, because that is what is depicted in the clip ,as I dont particularly care two hoots how a Springer ,Cocker, or HPR walks to heel as long as it can Hunt on command when I take the lead off it when I get to the start point of the hunt. !(for competition in Trials or Tests) . The Ones who are Pets ,or live in City /town or occasionally do some "Gundog work in the shooting field would obviously require the same standard of heel as in the video IF THEY WERE EVER TO BE WALKED AT HEEL OFF LEAD ! ...
"What type of training did you do to get the dogs to that point" You ask Mackenzie ?
If it is a pup at 10 weeks old , the conditioning is the place that it should be has No Pressure!! so it Wants to be there. If it is a dog that has experienced pressure in or at that place , then certain tools used with correct application are useful in the right hands .
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The video clip is with 3 siblings from the same litter,they are about 10/11 month old and I did NOT teach them to heel together . I taught them Heel individually ,then brought them together knowing what they have been taught Individually .
Wonder leads ,Haltis ,Pinch Collars ,impulse or tone vibrators , and all manner of Tools are ALL Good for Correction of a behavior and they Do work ! when used correctly with correct application,much like a common slip lead as mentioned by Shags ,when used in the wrong application they are and can be detrimental .
I can Make a Dog do pretty much do anything it is physically and mentally capable of doing in training.Making a dog Want to do it in Training,Is Training . (imo)
It started around about here Mackenzie :.. It was So much easier ,and always has been.
Line manners and noise ,and mouthing,and or excitement and spinning/popping ,delivery/hard mouth,lunging,etc etc..
Icouldgoon.com. So it is Not in the breeding ,it is in the initial training that moulds the dog ,what happens after 4 weeks old and that dog is on solids from a human has huge implications ,and what happens with that pup after 8 weeks old when ,and or If it goes to a new owner ,has huge implications to the future of that pup , and what happens with that pup for 1 year depends on what it learns in that year .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewn5aVeIUmA