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When using a "whoa post" what is the proper collar to use?

I wonder if you can even buy the "pinch collar" of the style that Delmar used.

I see Gun Dog Supply has them https://www.gundogsupply.com/leather-pinch-collars.html

Seems an e collar is used by many:

http://www.gundogsonline.com/Article/us ... -Page1.htm

Sharon wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:24 pm

Seems an e collar is used by many:

http://www.gundogsonline.com/Article/us ... -Page1.htm

Yes, but it doesn't work with a whoa post.

The link suggests they do , but you know a heck of a lot more than I do so .....thanks.

I believe you could also use a prong collar. Same principle, similar effect.

I don't see why it wouldn't work if that is what you already have.

I actually think an e-collar might work with the whoa post...but your timing would have to be spot on. Mine ain't that good.

RayG

Most just use a half hitch.....

cr

birddogger2 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:17 pm

I believe you could also use a prong collar. Same principle, similar effect.

I don't see why it wouldn't work if that is what you already have.

I actually think an e-collar might work with the whoa post...but your timing would have to be spot on. Mine ain't that good.

RayG

This would be the problem with the e-collar and the whoa post - timing. Not so much with the on button, but moreso on the release.

Sharon wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:33 pm

The link suggests they do , but you know a heck of a lot more than I do so .....thanks.

I must confess I didn't watch the entirety of the video, but I did read the transcript. I didn't see anything about the use of a post - my quick take on it is that they taught whoa with the half-hitch and were now transitioning the collar as a replacement for the half hitch to enforce whoa at a distance.

Huntsmith

-Whoa Post Part 1
http://www.huntsmith.com/article.php?id=15

-Whoa Post Part 2
http://www.huntsmith.com/article.php?id=16

Coveyrise64 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:06 pm

Huntsmith

-Whoa Post Part 1
http://www.huntsmith.com/article.php?id=15

-Whoa Post Part 2
http://www.huntsmith.com/article.php?id=16

CR -

I don't generally use a whoa post for steadying and the method I learned was different than the Huntsmith method you posted.

Thank you for sharing. Always nice to learn another way to get something done. One more tool for the toolbox.

Thanks again.

RayG

I generally start em on a training table.
They tend to be timid on the raised platform so don't immediately jump around. Work slowly standing them and styling them up rewarding wath gentle strokes over their cape when they stand still.
The finished dogs jump up and stand on their own waiting for the bell to be put on before they get to run.
The tailgate of a pick-up works as well.

I use the old Delmar Smith method with some changes. For a collar from the post to the dog I have used the pinch collar but for years now have simly used a choke collar, doesn't seem to make any difference at all. Once I have the dog going on the post I go to the yard with short stakes in the ground. Check cord around and when I can catch a stake with the dragging check cord give the "whoa" command. Catch the dog and flip the CC off the stake right away and tighten it up to be able to bump the dog if need be. When I start in the yard I also add the E collar but don't use it to soon. Doesn't take long and the dog is usually stopping very well. last few time's in the yard and I use the E collar. Low power shock and quick hit. Make the quick hit over and over till the dog stops, doesn't take long. Once I think I'm where I want to be, I quit using the stakes and the knot to bump the dog under the chin. No stakes and the E collar.