all breed ngpda

brookzee · Post by **brookzee** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:23 pm

when does it start?

Outbak Kennel · Post by **Outbak Kennel** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:31 pm

If I'm not mistaken it should start around the 14th of march with the shooting dog.

Rich

brookzee · Post by **brookzee** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:58 pm

do they have an am shooting dog. would it start first.do they have a derby.

Dave Quindt · Post by **Dave Quindt** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:43 pm

Order of stakes:

OSD
OAA
ASD
Derby Classic

Qualifications: For broke dogs stakes any placement in an AF or AKC broke dog stake, or a derby win. Amateur handler required for amateur championship qualification. Derby Classic for dogs born after 1/1/08.

Open to GSPs, GWPs, Vizlsas and Weims.

NGSPA Region 5 will run the 8th-13th; Gateway GSPC will run the 5th - 7th.

FYI,
Dave

Ricky Ticky Shorthairs · Post by **Ricky Ticky Shorthairs** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:59 pm

Anybody know who the judges are?

Doug

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:26 am

The NGPDA is a stand alone championship organization, in other words it is not part of the NGSPA or the GSPCA/AKC structure. You need to contact the NGPDA organizers to get specific information, until they publish their ad in the American Field. Then you can get it from the ad. The ad should come out in Feb. some time. The primary organizer is Pennie Willis.

DGFavor · Post by **DGFavor** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:58 pm

Open to GSPs, GWPs, Vizlsas and Weims.

Yesssss!! Always one of my favorite threads of the year because, even though I try not to, I still always have to ask...why is it called the All Breed? Don't answer, it only encourages me...

Dave Quindt · Post by **Dave Quindt** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:39 pm

DGFavor wrote:
Open to GSPs, GWPs, Vizlsas and Weims.
Yesssss!! Always one of my favorite threads of the year because, even though I try not to, I still always have to ask...why is it called the All Breed?

First of all, the trial is not formally called the "all breed".

Second, was my answer from last year not sufficient?

http://www.gundogforum.com/forum/viewto ... =0#p156556

I would think you'd be more interested in why the Continental Championship is called such when it is, I believe, the only major AF championship where Continental Breeds are banned from participating.

DGFavor · Post by **DGFavor** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:37 am

was my answer from last year not sufficient?

Yes, yes, it was, and so was the answer from the year before that...and the year before that. Just can't help but ask pretty much solely to amuse myself!!

I didn't know the Continental had any breed restrictions. The premium on the Conti FTC website doesn't mention any restrictions...??

Anaconda Pintler · Post by **Anaconda Pintler** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:15 pm

Where is this trial going to be at?

brookzee · Post by **brookzee** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:39 pm

pickneyville, il.
we goin or what?

Dave Quindt · Post by **Dave Quindt** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:40 pm

Anaconda Pintler wrote:Where is this trial going to be at?

Pinckneyville, IL; 75 miles SE of St Louis.

brookzee · Post by **brookzee** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:50 pm

gps says it is 8 hours from my house.

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:08 am

Jason

Straight up I 24 from Nashville to I 57, which is north of Paducah, then to Benton Illinois and west to grounds. A slight jog at Duquoin Ill and then to grounds. Hope that will help you, gps might take you around the world. That is the best way to get there from the south.

I just gp west from home to Benton and then to the grounds.

Jerry

Hope you get to come.

Anaconda Pintler · Post by **Anaconda Pintler** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:36 pm

So who all is going to this? Has anyone been to these grounds, what are they like?

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:51 pm

Come up and run the Gateway GSP trial the 1st of the month. Grounds are big and wide open. flow pretty good.

Hope to see you there.

Pepper

Neil · Post by **Neil** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:30 am

Dave Quindt wrote:
DGFavor wrote:
Open to GSPs, GWPs, Vizlsas and Weims.
Yesssss!! Always one of my favorite threads of the year because, even though I try not to, I still always have to ask...why is it called the All Breed?
First of all, the trial is not formally called the "all breed".

Second, was my answer from last year not sufficient?

http://www.gundogforum.com/forum/viewto ... =0#p156556

I would think you'd be more interested in why the Continental Championship is called such when it is, I believe, the only major AF championship where Continental Breeds are banned from participating.

I believe the Continental is closed to all but pointers and setters that have placed in an Open All-Age or Open Derby, but it was formed well before there were any continental breeds running in trails in the US, and was so named to include all bird dogs (of that time) of Continental North America (to include Mexico and Canada) to put it ahead (in their minds) of the National Championship and the US Open. Having nothing to do with Continental Europe or those breeds.

But I have a question, why are Brittanys, clearly a continental breed, excluded?

Elroy's Bandit · Post by **Elroy's Bandit** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:07 pm

Here is a question.....This year the premium says that no dog will be drawn without completed entries and check. I have yet to find an entry form any place, and I have never seen and "NGPDA entry form". Any suggestions?
Bill L.

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:28 pm

Bill

Fill out some kind of akc form and sign it, add a check and send it to Pennie. Believe me, they will take it.

I know they take the entries so they can make a bood to sell ads for it. I am sure the drawing will take place just like at Booneville.

Not a part of it any longer but it is still a great championship.

Jerry

Dave Quindt · Post by **Dave Quindt** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:30 pm

Elroy's Bandit wrote:Here is a question.....This year the premium says that no dog will be drawn without completed entries and check. I have yet to find an entry form any place, and I have never seen and "NGPDA entry form". Any suggestions?
Bill L.

Bill,

It's the same as any AF trial. Just a piece of paper with the dog's name, FDSB #, owner name and address, handler name, stake to be run in and the check. You can use the AKC form or just a piece of paper with the info on it.

FYI,
Dave

Neil · Post by **Neil** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:58 am

Neil wrote:
But I have a question, why are Brittanys, clearly a continental breed, excluded?

Elroy's Bandit · Post by **Elroy's Bandit** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:39 am

Just writing a note and attaching a check is how I had been doing it in the past, so I will do the same again this year. Thanks for the info guyts!
Bill L.

Dave Quindt · Post by **Dave Quindt** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:49 am

Neil wrote:
Neil wrote:
But I have a question, why are Brittanys, clearly a continental breed, excluded?

Neil, are you asking why the Brittany is excluded from the National German Pointing Dog Association?

And before you ask, the Vizsla is a German breed as well as a Hungarian breed. And for many years this trial had that pesky retrieving requirement.

Gotta go - more on the history of the all breed later.

Dave

(btw, I'd have no problem seeing Brits at this trial)

Neil · Post by **Neil** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:19 am

That is the first I heard the Vizsla is a German breed, how is that?

Since German occupied France a couple of times in the 20th century, seems like France might be considered part of Germany.

Truth is, were it open to Britts, I doubt many would attend,

Neil

Elroy's Bandit · Post by **Elroy's Bandit** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:59 am

Any updates from Pickneyville would be appreciated. They started the OSD yesterday morning and were hoping to get through 6-7 braces. Not sure how they did.
Bill L.

Jager · Post by **Jager** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:28 am

Still on the osd don't know what brace. Start the aa tomorrow. Asd starts Thursday. It's a cold 50 degrees, cloudy, there have been a few scratches. Running order is not posted. We just got here late last evening so I don't know too much yet will post more as I know.

SFK · Post by **SFK** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:27 pm

Jo you running in the ASD? If so - Good Luck!

Really wanted to get there this year. With the snow I have not been able to get the girls in shape for the hour. Got the ATV stuck twice last week.

Had to call Penni on Friday and tell her not to draw us.

Jager · Post by **Jager** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:12 pm

Thanks, Art, running both Jager & Duke. Was counting on cashing in that scouting that you owe me,

My dogs aren't in the best of shape either but I'm going to make a go of it anyway, just have'n some fun. They haven't drawn for it yet. May do that tonight, Peter wasn't sure. They finished the osd but haven't heard the placements.

mrscuddles · Post by **mrscuddles** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:01 pm

Placements for the Open Shooting Dog are.....

Winner - Chicoree's Jackie V Nuke (Jackie) (o) Fred Ryan, DVM (h) Dan DiMambro
Runner UP - Hadlock's Premiere Performeer (Pete) (o) Linnea Hadlock (h) Rich Barber

Congrats to Fred, Dan, Mrs. H., and Rich

Elroy's Bandit · Post by **Elroy's Bandit** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:43 pm

Congrats to the OSD winners! "Jackie" & "Pete" as well as Rich, Dan, Fred and Linnea. Nice Job!!!
Bill L.

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:09 pm

Big congrats out to Dan, Jackie & Doc Ryan and also to Rich/Joyce, Ms. Lynn and Big Pete!!! So happy for all of you. Best of Luck in the AA.

Robbi

mrscuddles · Post by **mrscuddles** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:04 am

Here's a few pictures of winners!!

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Jager · Post by **Jager** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:38 am

Starting w the aa at 8:45ish. A little foggy, cool out. Drew for the asd last night, 8 full braces.

tthaden · Post by **tthaden** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:51 am

Anyone know the running order for the AA today??

Big congrats to all the winners so far!!

Tim

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:49 pm

Great pictures Mrscuddles. Thanks for sharing with everyone.

scott townsend · Post by **scott townsend** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:38 pm

Way to go Dan. I knew you would pull one off . Good on ya man.

tthaden · Post by **tthaden** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:01 am

Any word on the AA?? should have finished earlier this am...

Tim

Jager · Post by **Jager** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:15 pm

AA was withheld for both placements. Got thru 2 braces of the asd. 8am start w 3 tomorrow. One of richardsons dogs got around clean w 3 finds.

mrscuddles · Post by **mrscuddles** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:44 pm

Amateur Placements:

Winner - BDK's Break the Bank (o) Keith & Bobbie Richardson (h) Keith Richardson

Runner Up - Nukes High Power Tank (o/h) Joe Orndoff

Congrats to Breaker and Keith and Tank and Joe

Finishing up with the Derby tomorrow.

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fuzznut · Post by **fuzznut** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:52 pm

were all the entries gsp's?
fuzz

snips · Post by **snips** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:42 pm

Big Congrats to all!!! Fuzz, I know Quinten ran Zip his Wire. (I see he got his mug in the pics!)

TAK · Post by **TAK** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:56 pm

snips wrote:Big Congrats to all!!! Fuzz, I know Quinten ran Zip his Wire. (I see he got his mug in the pics!)

A head like that how could ya miss!

Anaconda Pintler · Post by **Anaconda Pintler** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:43 am

My mug is there cuz that powerful thang that was runnerup was a handful to scout!!! Very nice dogs there at that trial, I seen alot of power in the big open country, I met some very nice people as well! Congrads to Kieth (class act) and Joe and his wife they have a very nice dog!

Ricky Ticky Shorthairs · Post by **Ricky Ticky Shorthairs** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:28 am

Congrats to all of the winners!! Very nice.

Any word on the Derby?

Doug

Anaconda Pintler · Post by **Anaconda Pintler** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:10 am

Kieth sent me a text last night and if I am not mistaking he said he scouted all his derbies and they were 1st and 3rd other than that I dont know.

Jager · Post by **Jager** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:57 am

Richardson's dogs took first and third in the derby not sure of the dogs names. Jagermeisters dollop of daisy took runner up owned by me & my wife, handled by me. I'd like to thank Quintin for stepping in to scout at the last minute for me & Tank aka "Duke". And thank Dennis Brath for scouting Daisy, she can be a hand full at times. Also thanks to Peter Coppen for scouting jäger and Rich Barber for helping locate him after losing him at 50 minutes. I'm proud of all three dogs

Joe

vzkennels · Post by **vzkennels** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:08 am

Hey BIG congrats Joe very nice placements

Blue Dawn Kennel · Post by **Blue Dawn Kennel** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:24 pm

The biggest Congrats out to Keith & our Breaker girl (I bred and whelped Breakers litter and she was mine and Keith's pic of the litter) then the Richardson's bought her from us @ Booneville. It is awesome to see them get this National. Jody congrats to you as well and also Keith/Dennis and yourself for your derby placements. Thanks for sharing the pictures with us and letting us know whats been happening.

Robbi

DGFavor · Post by **DGFavor** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:38 pm

Congrats to all you folks!! Well done!! Too bad about the AA - always hate that but always next week/next time!!

remmy · Post by **remmy** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:15 pm

Congrats to all.