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NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby hi-tailyn » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:32 pm

1st of several lists. Heard there may be 70 dogs to draw.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Brooks Carmichael » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:00 am

I understand 67 were drawn. If they run 6 braces a day. It will take them 5 1/2 days to run. If they have time to run 7 braces a day, that will still take 5 days. Unbelievable. They still have the ASD and OAA to draw. And then there is the Derby. This Championship could take two weeks to run.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Hotpepper » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:04 am

When a championship is done correctly, the result is a great entry. I love it. Wish I had a dog in the fight.

Keep us posted.

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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Jagerdawg » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:16 pm

Running order page 2
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby hi-tailyn » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:18 pm

Looked on weathercast at today's temps and it was 87 for this afternoon 2 braces.

As they say Un-Luck of the Draw for this afternoon. All the other 64 dogs get to run in 45-55 degree temps.

Don't understand why they just had to run this afternoon. End time would be no different.

Don't tell me that running in 87 is Not different then running in 45-55 degree temps.

Know they postponed the Sharptail when temps were this high in the last few years.

If temps were this high at least for a day or so, then Yes, it is the luck of the draw.

2 hours is not bad to postpone to make it safe and equal for the stake.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Middlecreek » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:59 pm

Good post, really a great piece of information. Hopefully you'll continue to give us some great updates to keep us interested and inspire newcomers so the sport can continue to grow.

How many birds were pointed? Who had a good race? How are the grounds looking this year? Are they still using courses that number in the teens?
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby DGFavor » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:20 pm

hi-tailyn wrote:Looked on weathercast at today's temps and it was 87 for this afternoon 2 braces.

As they say Un-Luck of the Draw for this afternoon. All the other 64 dogs get to run in 45-55 degree temps.

Don't understand why they just had to run this afternoon. End time would be no different.

Don't tell me that running in 87 is Not different then running in 45-55 degree temps.

Know they postponed the Sharptail when temps were this high in the last few years.

If temps were this high at least for a day or so, then Yes, it is the luck of the draw.

2 hours is not bad to postpone to make it safe and equal for the stake.


OK, I'll put it bluntly (but with a smiley :D ) - It's the summer, it's a prairie trial, show up prepared to run in the heat or don't show up - that's the deal, the way it's always been, it's one of the big draws to trials at this time of year. We ran our dog in the Nat'l Am Phez Ch. a couple weeks ago and the truck registered 99 on the thermometer at pick up of her brace. She did a nice job for the whole hour, nice find on a dozen sharpies, proud of her. It wasn't the temperature that kept her from winnin' and it rarely is for those that show up ready to compete in the heat. The Ch and RUCh came from the afternoon 5th courses - those dogs ripped it and it was hottt! :D
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby hi-tailyn » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:59 am

How many times have they postponed the Nationals due to weather? Cold, snow rain. More times then not over the last few years. :lol:

It is the Winter. They don't live with it. :wink: They postpone till it is safe for them and their dogs.

If the Nationals can do it then a small prairie trial can do it for 2 hours. Not a day, only the one afternoon.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby rockyridge kennels » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:49 am

Hope you never switch to pointers, they come to a Field Trial to run dogs. Heat, rain, snow, mud, wind, good course, bad course it is what it is.

I just came back from the US Chicken Champ. in SD several days the temps in the high 80's, 30 mph wind, rain .



Just be glad the entry fee isn't $300.00 per dog....
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby RoostersMom » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:53 am

I'm fingers-crossed for young Nova. She is my sister's dog and should have a good run. Great little birddog. She runs this morning. :D
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Wind Dancer Kennels » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:00 am

I believe that if a dog shows up at a Championship that they should be in shape and able to run in the heat.
Living in Texas 87 degrees is not hot to me. Take extra water out on course with you.

I would be more concerned for an out of shape horse in the heat than a dog that should be in shape to run the hour stakes.

I'm pulling for top dog in brace 17, Lexi. Get it done little girl!

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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby hi-tailyn » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:03 am

rockyridge kennels wrote:Hope you never switch to pointers, they come to a Field Trial to run dogs. Heat, rain, snow, mud, wind, good course, bad course it is what it is.

I just came back from the US Chicken Champ. in SD several days the temps in the high 80's, 30 mph wind, rain .



Just be glad the entry fee isn't $300.00 per dog....
Are the dogs at the Pointer Nats not as good? :lol: (just kidding) They postpone due to weather every other year. Is it the dogs, handlers, or judges that don't want to run in the rain or ice?

Bottom line I do agree they you should have them in shape to handle the heat.
Here in TX at 8am its 83 degrees and rising.

Point was do you possibly throw out those 2-4 dogs that haft to run in the extreme temps then the other dogs. Just for the luck of the draw.

For the Pro with 10 dogs, it's a numbers game. With some of the Amateurs that have as many or more dogs as a pro it's again a numbers game.

It is hard draw for the amateur with One Bullet.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby rockyridge kennels » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:24 pm

I've had a dog run at Ames the last 3 yrs. and re-qualified again this year. As I'm sure you are aware there are sometimes up to 100 or more riders in the gallery at Ames, the reason they cancel is a safety thing for animals and people. And they haven't canceled due to heat that I'm aware of.. Snow and Ice yes, thunder storms yes, heat NO.

So to answer your question I'm not sure the dogs at Ames are or aren't as good as the ones at the NGSPA Chicken Champ or any other trial, but lucky for you there is always room for one more to run, so get qualified and come on down to Ames...

Point is it's a field trial, if you want more bullets get more, otherwise run or don't run but luck of the draw is just that.

And for the record, I feel your pain, I just deal with it.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby hi-tailyn » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:12 pm

I was just quoting that the pointers NEVER postpone due to weather. We all have exceptions for postponements in our game.

Just saying it goes both ways Hot and Cold can kill your dog.
When hunting or trialing, You would be hard pressed to kill your dog in the cold, but would be very easy to kill one in the heat.
You can cook one, but you can't freeze one. etc.

Congrats on having the privilege to run at Ames and re-qualified for this year. Best of luck.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Elkhunter » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:45 pm

Both of my CH placements have come in the afternoon draws. Region 9 ASD last year, drew 5th brace on the last day. Region 9 AAA drew 4th brace. Just gotta be ready!
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Wind Dancer Kennels » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:09 pm

OK, now that we know about the heat and the cold and when to postpone and when to carry on...
What about the Championship?

Someone out there has some update on what is going on?
Are they finding birds on all course, how many course are they running this year?
Who has the dogs the have made an impression with great race and bird work?
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby ultracarry » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:19 pm

Start running 15th brace tomorrow.
Sadie got around and word is she did a really good job.. Neiman handling (yesterday)
Tac got around with a covey of sharpies (today brace 10)

All I know. But I'm not talking to anyone there. Just calling others and seeing if they have updates...
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby DGFavor » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:30 am

hi-tailyn wrote:How many times have they postponed the Nationals due to weather? Cold, snow rain. More times then not over the last few years. :lol:

It is the Winter. They don't live with it. :wink: They postpone till it is safe for them and their dogs.

If the Nationals can do it then a small prairie trial can do it for 2 hours. Not a day, only the one afternoon.


:lol: :lol: Valid points but I will say if I ever had a dog qualified to go run there at that time of year I'd prepare by going out and working 'em in the cold and the slop since there is a good chance we'd have to run in it! No mystery to the typical weather at most of the yearly trials - occasionally you encounter some real unseasonable, unanticipated heat or severe, wet, cold that might catch your dog out but in general I think we usually have a pretty good idea what conditions we need to prepare for and be ready to run in.

Any news on the trial?
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Brooks Carmichael » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:41 am

Does anybody know if the OSD will finish today and how many OAA are going to run?
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Hunter » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:57 pm

I believe Robbi said that they would be done this afternoon with the shooting dog, but not sure how many AA dogs they drew.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Vonzeppelinkennels » Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:07 pm

Ok some one tell us who won this. :D
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Brooks Carmichael » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:16 pm

Angie (owned by David and Hayley) with Eldon Hongo handling won the Shooting Dog, with Indy (owned by Kirk and Terry Bomer) handled by Robbi Gulledge was runner-up.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Hotpepper » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:34 pm

Congratulations to hongo s Eldon and Terry, handlers Angie the dog and Killiams David and Hayley.
The Gulledges, handler and scout, FC/AFC Texas Hoosier Girl runner up, NGSPA Prarie Chicken Championship.
60 dogs that is some kind of special feat, WOW

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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby dezasterous gundogs » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:40 pm

I heard they gave 4 placements
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Brooks Carmichael » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:46 pm

dezasterous gundogs wrote:I heard they gave 4 placements

It was dual sanctioned. That is why four placements. AKC 4 placements, Winner and Runner up for NGSPA (American Field).

There is 11 braces of AA.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby hi-tailyn » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:37 pm

All Age Running Order.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Wind Dancer Kennels » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:23 am

Who won the AA?
Running order for the ASD?
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Brooks Carmichael » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:33 pm

NFC BDK's Chloe Jax of All Trades (Trey), owned by Brooks Carmichael won the AA handled by Keith Gulledge, Dress Blues owned by Mike Aldridge, handled by John Rabidou was second, third went to Jewel owned by Keith Richardson handled by Keith Gulledge third, fourth went to Mick handle by Dan Dimambro. I have to brag a little Trey is on a roll.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Neil » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:11 pm

Brooks Carmichael wrote:NFC BDK's Chloe Jax of All Trades (Trey), owned by Brooks Carmichael won the AA handled by Keith Gulledge, Dress Blues owned by Mike Aldridge, handled by John Rabidou was second, third went to Jewel owned by Keith Richardson handled by Keith Gulledge third, fourth went to Mick handle by Dan Dimambro. I have to brag a little Trey is on a roll.


Congratulations, that is an impressive win!
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Brooks Carmichael » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:27 pm

Thanks Neil, Trey is once in lifetime dog. I feel very lucky I own him.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Vonzeppelinkennels » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:59 pm

Big Congrats! Brooks very nice. :D
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Wind Dancer Kennels » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:35 pm

Brooks Carmichael wrote:NFC BDK's Chloe Jax of All Trades (Trey), owned by Brooks Carmichael won the AA handled by Keith Gulledge, Dress Blues owned by Mike Aldridge, handled by John Rabidou was second, third went to Jewel owned by Keith Richardson handled by Keith Gulledge third, fourth went to Mick handle by Dan Dimambro. I have to brag a little Trey is on a roll.


Congratulation on the win.
Are you sure it's Dress Blues (Buddy) that went RU
Or the dog Blue that Sue Rabidou owns and John Runs?
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Brooks Carmichael » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:42 pm

Wind Dancer Kennels wrote:
Brooks Carmichael wrote:NFC BDK's Chloe Jax of All Trades (Trey), owned by Brooks Carmichael won the AA handled by Keith Gulledge, Dress Blues owned by Mike Aldridge, handled by John Rabidou was second, third went to Jewel owned by Keith Richardson handled by Keith Gulledge third, fourth went to Mick handle by Dan Dimambro. I have to brag a little Trey is on a roll.


Congratulation on the win.
Are you sure it's Dress Blues (Buddy) that went RU
Or the dog Blue that Sue Rabidou owns and John Runs?

I probably mistaken on that. I just assumed it was Dress Blues. I will check on that. I just got a note from Robbi it was Blue, I assumed it was Dress Blues.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Brooks Carmichael » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:46 pm

Wind Dancer Kennels wrote:
Brooks Carmichael wrote:NFC BDK's Chloe Jax of All Trades (Trey), owned by Brooks Carmichael won the AA handled by Keith Gulledge, Dress Blues owned by Mike Aldridge, handled by John Rabidou was second, third went to Jewel owned by Keith Richardson handled by Keith Gulledge third, fourth went to Mick handle by Dan Dimambro. I have to brag a little Trey is on a roll.


Congratulation on the win.
Are you sure it's Dress Blues (Buddy) that went RU
Or the dog Blue that Sue Rabidou owns and John Runs?


You were right it is Blue that Sue Rabidou owns.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Brooks Carmichael » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:01 pm

Does anybody know how many ASD were drawn.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby hi-tailyn » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:17 pm

Blue reg name is UODIBAR'S AGAINST ALL ODDS .

Results of the NGSPA Prairie Chicken OAA: Champion Trey with Keith Gulledge, Runner-up Blue with John Rabidou, 3rd Jewell with Keith Gulledge, 4th Mick with Dan Dan DiMambro.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Brooks Carmichael » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:48 am

I do not have the running order but I did find out they had 30 entries in the ASD with 3 braces run yesterday after the AA was completed. Good luck to all.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby GunDogAdventures » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:13 pm

My little Jax'd Up Trix'd Out Chevy says, "Way to go, Dad!!"
Congrats Brooks, Robbi, & Keith!
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Wind Dancer Kennels » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:52 pm

Any update on the ASD?
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby hi-tailyn » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:46 pm

Am shooting dog Winner Angie with Hailey

and Runner up Jake!! — with Hank Lewis.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Gunfield » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:49 pm

dezasterous gundogs wrote:
I heard they gave 4 placements

It was dual sanctioned. That is why four placements. AKC 4 placements, Winner and Runner up for NGSPA (American Field).

Could you give us the 3 & 4 th. place OSD. AKC placements please ?
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby horizon » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:27 pm

Has anyone seen any offspring out of Uodibars Against All Odds?
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby Wind Dancer Kennels » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:54 pm

horizon wrote:Has anyone seen any offspring out of Uodibars Against All Odds?


Seen a couple young puppy/derby on Rabidou's sting a few weeks back at a trial in Texas.
Blue is a handsome dog, but not a very big male.
He can sure roll.
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby horizon » Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:06 pm

Thank You
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Re: NGSPA Prairie Chicken Championship

Postby horizon » Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:02 pm

Does anyone know much about "Blue" Uodibars Against All Odds?
I have watched him go! Just wondering about other attributes? Bird find? Nose, Production?

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