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Post by bobman » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:52 am

I have a two dog innojunk collar that has repeatedly had a very bad failure, the signal for one collar will jump to the other.

Then what happens next is the dog that misbehaving gets no correction and you keep moveing up the stimulation level until the other dog thats doing nothing wrong yelps in confusion and pain.

Unfortunately there is no way to realize this failure has occured until its too late and the good dog gets hurt.

Its been sent in twice for warranty repair " we never have that happen" BS. This was failure number three.

If there is one thing a multiple dog Ecollar unit should not do its jump to the wrong collar undoing training.

I work in a field where Murphys Law runs rampant and am normally very patient about mechanical (or electronic in this case) failure, but this is a design flaw.

I will never purchase a Innotech collar or product again.
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Post by mtlee » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:40 am

bird wrote:In Tri-tronics I Trust!
I'll second that.

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Post by kninebirddog » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:43 am

mtlee wrote:
bird wrote:In Tri-tronics I Trust!
I'll second that.
I Second this x 2
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Post by schultz's honor » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:14 am

vzkennels wrote:No matter how much we hear about innojunk some one will come on here & say they are the greatest ecollars on the market. :wink:
Greatest Ecollar on the market, but I'll stick with my Tritronics :lol:

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Post by kninebirddog » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:59 am

vzkennels wrote:No matter how much we hear about innojunk some one will come on here & say they are the greatest ecollars on the market. :wink:
Well you know how many people purchase a product and some may come across a Lemon...with innorec it is the oposite everyonce in a while someone comes across a good one
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Post by sweetsong » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:51 pm

I won't say anything :wink:

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Post by mikeyair » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:17 pm

i must have got the on innotek collor that woorks ive never had a problem with it but i can say i know a lot of people who have had issues with them if i ever have to get another it wont be an innoteck

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Post by Stoneface » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:24 am

bobman, what model Innotek has the jumping signal?

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Post by Ricky Ticky Shorthairs » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:27 pm

I've used Tri Tronics for almost 20 years. Not really any probs, other than normal wear and tear/maintenance. I did have a temporary moment of insanity around 2001 and bought a Innotek 1600 so I could use it for the launchers, and later buy a clooar to add to the system. Had it for 6 months and sold it at a loss. Didn't even bother buying the collar. What a piece of junk. Too many buttons, and you can't feel them, and you have to look at it to see what you are pushing.

Like I said, temporary insanity. In 20 years I've had 3 different Tri-Tronics collars. 2 pro 500's, and an Upland Special. They have a cust for life. Very good cust service too!!

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Post by Birdhunter1 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:35 pm

I've got 3 innotek ADV series over the past six years and a buddy has 2 innotek ADV series and neither of us has had repeated problems. I had one problem with one of the collars on my 1002 set, they sent me a new one and haven't had a problem since. I guess i must be the lucky one.

I have noticed on this board though that most of the problematic collars are the CS series and not the ADV series.

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Post by ward myers » Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:39 am

i bought the innotec 2 collar system in october 1998
i cant complain about anything the only problems i had
were fixed by new batteries.
ill take that back i have a hard headed male GSP he needs a stronger stimulation .
but i hear when innotec switched to digital siignal from analog thats where the problems started.
i also have there bark collar & beeper collars as well.
i will be in the market for a 2 collar upland system next year
i dont like listening to the constant beep or the beeping when you see the dog on point ,so ill be looking for something with a locate feature.
i may see if someone makes a remote beeper i can slide on to my existing collars
thanks ward
p.s. il probally shy away from a innotec product due to negative posts
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Post by ward myers » Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:52 am

some more input
my first collar was tritronics it was garbage
i sent it back several times batterie issues it wouldnt charge right
i had a friend set it up 2 use a 9 volt baterry in the transmitter
i then sold it. to buy a DT collar, it was always going dead
i had the same friend look at it ,he replaced a capacitor
that took care of that problem.
but at the time i was camping out in primitive sites no electric to recharge
collars & transmitter ,i sold it & bought the innotec ,i stop at wallmart & pick up a handfull of batteries & i am good for the season ,if i am in the middle of the woods a collar goes dead no problem ,reach in the glove box & pop in a new battery
thanks ward

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Post by Weege3 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:15 pm

I had a innotek for a while sometimes i had trouble with the collar powering up right but only once or twice recently switched to a dogtra though and I like it a lot better!

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Post by bwood » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:24 pm

I don't know what all the complaints are about. I have 2 innoteks and a dogtra. The innoteks make great dummy collars. Kind of expensive though for a dummy collar. Each one lasted about 20 field days as a real collar and innotek never would even respond. Great dummy collars though!

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Post by bean1031 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:38 pm

I use a DT redhead 1200 and nothing has gone wrong with it so far, but if I ever get another collar it will be Tri-tronics just because of the good reviews I have gotten in the past. The only reason I didnt before is the money factor and being my age $250 bucks is a ton compared to the $170 I got mine for!
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Post by big daddy » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:51 am

Been using one for 6 years now , never a problem. Guess I am another lucky one

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Post by TheShadow » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:01 am

i had a friend who used an Inno-tek and had a problem with it either shutting off by itself or for whatever reason would not function sometimes. He had to shock himself to figure it out. And at first the thing worked everytime he pressed the button. So he wasn't sure. He had a friend walk out about 20ft and he'd press and his friend would say "ouch!" haha everytime and he noticed out of 5 nicks he said ouch only 2. So he junked it and bought a G3 Basic and has been very happy since.

So I guess that kinda reinforced me to always stick to TT My pro100G2 is a work horse. The actual collar is beat to snot (well it looks like it is) and I've dropped the transmitter a bunch o times on concrete and twice into a pond. Never an issue.

I use to have a G3 Basic (when it first came out) and for whatever reason my dail was not "tight" but that was the only complaint I had. The dail would not "click" into place and would move when in my pocket. Other than that I've dropped that as well and once dropped it into a river and couldn't find it for about 20mins and the thing still worked fine (for another 4months) before I sold it and got the pro100g2. The battery in the G3 seems to last forever. The collar battery lasts a long time as well before needing a charge.

TT for me.

My best friend likes Dogtra2300 and loves the way the transmitter is set up. He hates the pro TT "tube" style transmitters as he says its too bulky. I say he is jealous!

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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by ward myers » Sun May 18, 2008 2:33 pm

a friend of mine
was having a lot of trouble with his innotech ,collar .
he called innotech ,they let him do a upgrade to a sport dog 1850
for 125 $, i called them & told them i wanted to do the same thing,at first they said i had to stay with the same brand.
i told them they did it for my friend,you have to do it for me.she asked his name & she said i was right & she asked me hold for a minute ,so she could find out how to do it because shes never done it before.bottom line i got a sportdog 2 collar systen delivered to my house for 200$ ,75 $ for secound collar.
wich ill have to call them monday because the secound collar that arirved friday ,was D.O.A.
but to be honest i bought my innotek command series model 200 , i bought it on 11-23-1998 & it still works fine
only reason i did the upgrade was to get the remote beepers
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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by Mr October » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:31 am

I have hunted with people who have owned every brand but DT. I have seen every one of them fail repeatedly. We hunt in MN, SD and Iowa throughout the season into mid January. Yes, I own the 16000 and i have also looked at every other collar, and can find some fault with each one- Face it if you hunt a lot, your collar will break and you will need service.
I am disappointed that Innotek has virtually removed themselves from the collar game in the past 5 years. When I bought my 1st 1600 with beepers it was the best collar for upland hunters who run beepers. Until the past year nobody had all the features they had 10 years ago, remote beeper activation, 2 dogs easily distinguised, loud beepers, and various stimulation modes all at the transmitter. Each one of my friends who own the others have commented on a feature that these "junk" collars have and it has also altered their thoughts on what they looked for in the next collar.
They had great ideas and an OK product, but it drives me nutes when people tell me brand XYZ doesn't ever break. Every trainer who is serious will tell you that they all break and they all have faults.

If you see a guy in SD in a few weeks shooting chickens with a GSP and GWP and you hear a couple of beepers going off.....yes it will still be my 16000 junk collar that still does everything that any current model does.

PS- If you are a Dogtra, TT, DT or Sport Dog rep and or a product development person, I am open to providing hard core testing and feedback on your product. I would love nothing more than to own a collar that never breaks after a season of cattails, water, mud, snow, ice, dog fights, and barbwire.

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Post by ward myers » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:16 am

call 1-800-826-5527
then select sport dog & ask them to do a upgrade
they will let you upgrade to sport dog 1850 for 125$

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Post by Mr October » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:35 pm

THanks for the tip. How long did you get to use the 1850 and are you happy with it? Are they a holster transmitter or a lanyard? How do they code the different collars?

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Post by ward myers » Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:20 am

i havent really used it yet ,i still have my innotek it works fine but its the older model cs300,i bought it in 1998.
the sd1850 is a lanyard with a attacheable metal clip,i only upgraded because i wanted the remote beeper function
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Post by Chaingang » Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:55 am

Mr October wrote:I have hunted with people who have owned every brand but DT. I have seen every one of them fail repeatedly. We hunt in MN, SD and Iowa throughout the season into mid January. Yes, I own the 16000 and i have also looked at every other collar, and can find some fault with each one- Face it if you hunt a lot, your collar will break and you will need service.
I am disappointed that Innotek has virtually removed themselves from the collar game in the past 5 years. When I bought my 1st 1600 with beepers it was the best collar for upland hunters who run beepers. Until the past year nobody had all the features they had 10 years ago, remote beeper activation, 2 dogs easily distinguised, loud beepers, and various stimulation modes all at the transmitter. Each one of my friends who own the others have commented on a feature that these "junk" collars have and it has also altered their thoughts on what they looked for in the next collar.
They had great ideas and an OK product, but it drives me nutes when people tell me brand XYZ doesn't ever break. Every trainer who is serious will tell you that they all break and they all have faults.

If you see a guy in SD in a few weeks shooting chickens with a GSP and GWP and you hear a couple of beepers going off.....yes it will still be my 16000 junk collar that still does everything that any current model does.

PS- If you are a Dogtra, TT, DT or Sport Dog rep and or a product development person, I am open to providing hard core testing and feedback on your product. I would love nothing more than to own a collar that never breaks after a season of cattails, water, mud, snow, ice, dog fights, and barbwire.
October, the problem with Innotek is NOT the features at all. The problem is that the collar and the transmitter after relatively short time just quit talking to each other. I went through 3 1600 and the newer 16000 before my extended warranty ran out. Sure your going to have some who have not had issues with them, but far and away if you follow enough message boards you will see a pattern and that is that Innotek's quality just isn't there. Now to their (Innotek's) credit, they replaced each one that failed with the latest version at the time for shipping charges only. But after the last one and an expired warranty, it was time to move on.

As far as "other" brands breaking just as much I beg to differ. I have yet to read on any message board or elsewhere of a Dogtra (which I use) failing with regards to the transmitter talking to the collar receiver. Does it mean there hasn't been, NO, I'm sure there probably has. Just that I haven't read about or heard of any. Same goes for Tritronics. The number of satisfied customers who use them far outweigh the ones using Innotek, sorry it's just a well known fact.

I'm glad that your 16000 TT is working great for you. When the collar was working for me I was happy with it. Although, the syncronizing and programming of the collar and transmitter could get a little complex if you if you didnt' stay familiar with it or have your owners manual handy.

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Post by Mr October » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:09 am

ward myers wrote:i havent really used it yet ,i still have my innotek it works fine but its the older model cs300,i bought it in 1998.
the sd1850 is a lanyard with a attacheable metal clip,i only upgraded because i wanted the remote beeper function
thanks ward
Innotek allowed you to keep the old collars? IT also sounded like you needed a problem to get the replacement deal of $200, is that correct? Does the the 1850 have tone or is it straight stimulation?

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Post by ward myers » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:01 am

im not shure ,i put them on the charger & made shure it worked. but yes i kept my old collarsystem.
http://www.radiofence.com/dog-training- ... collar.htm
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Post by Mr October » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:07 pm

Mr October wrote:
ward myers wrote:i havent really used it yet ,i still have my innotek it works fine but its the older model cs300,i bought it in 1998.
the sd1850 is a lanyard with a attacheable metal clip,i only upgraded because i wanted the remote beeper function
thanks ward
Innotek allowed you to keep the old collars? IT also sounded like you needed a problem to get the replacement deal of $200, is that correct? Does the the 1850 have tone or is it straight stimulation?
I took your advice and did the sport dog deal today. They did ask for me to send in my old collars......I was hoping to keep as a back up in case. Did they send you a RMA for returning the old collars?

I hope I like the 1850. Thanks for the tip!

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Post by Mr October » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:22 pm

Chaingang wrote:
Mr October wrote:I have hunted with people who have owned every brand but DT. I have seen every one of them fail repeatedly. We hunt in MN, SD and Iowa throughout the season into mid January. Yes, I own the 16000 and i have also looked at every other collar, and can find some fault with each one- Face it if you hunt a lot, your collar will break and you will need service.
I am disappointed that Innotek has virtually removed themselves from the collar game in the past 5 years. When I bought my 1st 1600 with beepers it was the best collar for upland hunters who run beepers. Until the past year nobody had all the features they had 10 years ago, remote beeper activation, 2 dogs easily distinguised, loud beepers, and various stimulation modes all at the transmitter. Each one of my friends who own the others have commented on a feature that these "junk" collars have and it has also altered their thoughts on what they looked for in the next collar.
They had great ideas and an OK product, but it drives me nutes when people tell me brand XYZ doesn't ever break. Every trainer who is serious will tell you that they all break and they all have faults.

If you see a guy in SD in a few weeks shooting chickens with a GSP and GWP and you hear a couple of beepers going off.....yes it will still be my 16000 junk collar that still does everything that any current model does.

PS- If you are a Dogtra, TT, DT or Sport Dog rep and or a product development person, I am open to providing hard core testing and feedback on your product. I would love nothing more than to own a collar that never breaks after a season of cattails, water, mud, snow, ice, dog fights, and barbwire.
October, the problem with Innotek is NOT the features at all. The problem is that the collar and the transmitter after relatively short time just quit talking to each other. I went through 3 1600 and the newer 16000 before my extended warranty ran out. Sure your going to have some who have not had issues with them, but far and away if you follow enough message boards you will see a pattern and that is that Innotek's quality just isn't there. Now to their (Innotek's) credit, they replaced each one that failed with the latest version at the time for shipping charges only. But after the last one and an expired warranty, it was time to move on.

As far as "other" brands breaking just as much I beg to differ. I have yet to read on any message board or elsewhere of a Dogtra (which I use) failing with regards to the transmitter talking to the collar receiver. Does it mean there hasn't been, NO, I'm sure there probably has. Just that I haven't read about or heard of any. Same goes for Tritronics. The number of satisfied customers who use them far outweigh the ones using Innotek, sorry it's just a well known fact.

I'm glad that your 16000 TT is working great for you. When the collar was working for me I was happy with it. Although, the syncronizing and programming of the collar and transmitter could get a little complex if you if you didnt' stay familiar with it or have your owners manual handy.
What ticks me off more than anything is they had the right technology and the right mix of tools but they just quit the industry. They had hardly any competition them or TT and now they are fielding a cheap china look product at hardware stores. As far as Dogtra goes, 2 complaints 1 failure. Beepers are 2 quiet on the 2500TB and there previous model, and you can't change the beeper programming at the transmitter. I have also seen 1 beeper go bad and quit working last year. THe 2500 guy was very disappointed on a windy day when he couldn't find his dog, and later found him honoring with my GWP. You guessed it he heard my collar but not his. I have heard the same complaint from TT owners on the beeper loudness. I personally like the 2500 TB and the TT G3 Upland but I just did the trade in for the 1850 for $200.
If that doesn't work I will be joining the TT or Dogtra owners. I currently have TT, Dogtra and Sport dog bark collars and the only one that will stop my GSP is my new Dogtra.

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Post by snips » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:31 am

I used Innotek for years with no problems, and I think the other collar companies are not without problems. Rick has sent his TT G2 back twice. I even went to Ed Radar (who developed Innotek) and got a replacement collar when mine fiunally died. I am sure people can probably still get them from him. I still like the levels at your fingertips without turning a dial to adjust. That was the smartest thing about Innotek, I do not know how many times I have to adjust a dial a couple of times thru 1 piece of work on a dog, this takes precious time, as oppossed to just sliding your finger from one level to another.
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Post by Chaingang » Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:46 pm

Mr October wrote: What ticks me off more than anything is they had the right technology and the right mix of tools but they just quit the industry. They had hardly any competition them or TT and now they are fielding a cheap china look product at hardware stores. As far as Dogtra goes, 2 complaints 1 failure. Beepers are 2 quiet on the 2500TB and there previous model, and you can't change the beeper programming at the transmitter. I have also seen 1 beeper go bad and quit working last year. THe 2500 guy was very disappointed on a windy day when he couldn't find his dog, and later found him honoring with my GWP. You guessed it he heard my collar but not his. I have heard the same complaint from TT owners on the beeper loudness. I personally like the 2500 TB and the TT G3 Upland but I just did the trade in for the 1850 for $200.
If that doesn't work I will be joining the TT or Dogtra owners. I currently have TT, Dogtra and Sport dog bark collars and the only one that will stop my GSP is my new Dogtra.
That's good to know about the new 2500. I have the older 2000 series T&B and have had no issues as well as everyone else I know who has that model. I hope they rectify the issue with the 2500 and hope that's not a sign of things to come with Dogtra.... :x

PS I am hearing good things about the new DT systems combination beeper/collar unit as well.

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Post by JakeDD » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:31 am

Not sure I understand the issue with the 2500? I have one and can switch hi/low, change from running/pointing mode (slow beep when running, rapid beep when on point) to pointing mode (collar silent while running, beeps when on point) all from the transmitter.
I personally have not had issues being unable to hear the beeper, but could see it being a problem on a really windy day. That would be true of any beeper, however, just a matter of what degree of wind/noise they can overcome.

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Post by Mr October » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:36 pm

Like the wirehair.....where in MN are you?

It has been awhile since I was in the field with the the Dogtra, but if memory serves me you can't turn it on or off at the transmitter. (if you take a break or the dog is in the water, I like to turn it off. The beeper on the 2300 is pointing down, doesn't carry the volume like beepers that point up. I had my dog and the other dog with the Dogtra and you couldn't hear the beeper nearly as well. They are good collars, but my point is they are not perfect.

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Post by Chaingang » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:26 am

Although I have yet to hear one personally, I've have heard elsewhere that the 2500's beeper is too soft in comparison to others. I have a 2002 two-dog T&b where the beeper rides on top of the dogs neck. I have an orange collar and black. The orange collar emits a lower pitch, audible from roughly 150-200 yards in calm conditions of open country. The black emits a much higher pitch and can be heard (by my ears) a tad further.

Jake, have you had any issues with the 2500 in cold weather?

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Post by coryf » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:45 am

I also had NO luck with the innotech. I had one of those track and train collars qute a few years ago. There was ALWAYS one component not working. I will say customer service was good but as soon as I replaced one thing another would go bad. Seems like they finally sent me a whole new system or something and I auctioned it off.

As far as Dogtra I can't tell you how their customer service is. I've never had to use it. I don't like their transmitter features for the way I train but the T &B is the slickest thing for hunting where I can get by running it on the same stimulation level. I have used both the 2002 and 2502. Never had a problem with either and thought the beeper was plenty loud in almost all situations. The Dogtra has to be more comfortable for the dog with only one lighter component on the collar strap.

Last year I ran the TT upland special exp. It's a nice collar too. I like the transmitter features better than Dogtra but don't like the beeper operation quite as well. The beepers gave me a little trouble in cold, snowy weather. Don't like having to take the back off the beeper to make adjustments and change battery. Nice thing is if you have beeper problems just slide another on the collar and go. I haven't had any service issues with this collar but have had to send in TT collars from time to time. I'm running this collar again this season.

I train with a TT Pro 500 which has given me no trouble either. I need the extra levels of stimulation for my training. And I don't run dogs in cover where I can't see them in a training situation so no need for a beeper.

If Dogtra had

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Post by coryf » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:49 am

Continued:

If Dogtra had the 3 stimulation levels available instantly like the Pro 500 it would be perfect. Just can't get by with that rheostat for training.

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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by Chaingang » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:37 am

Cory, what you have said about the Dogtra and the rheostat system is true, however I have become accustomed to what stim levels get the desired results depending on what I'm training. For instance...when training yard commands, for me lower levels are all that are required ( I know exactly what I need) as apposed to training steady to wing etc.... It's a small inconvenience for me, but I manage ok. But you are right, having the ability to jump stim as a one handed operation is much better for training purposes.

You seem to have a great deal of training collars at your disposal. Are you in the business?

Do you have any first hand knowledge or experience with the new DT Systems SPT 2400 series collars, especially the 2430 beeper/collar unit? I'm curious as to the jump and rise stim features that it offers. Sounds like everything the Dogtra offers along with the ability to jump to a higher level stim with out a two-handed operation. http://dtsystems.com/products/SPT2400.aspx
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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by coryf » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:27 pm

Chaingang,

I imagine a guy could get used to the rheostat for alot of situations. Where I run into trouble is running the flank collar on a dog while taking the chase away. If the dog is giving chase it usually takes a little more to stop them. After the bird is out of sight and they move before released or reinforcing stop to the whistle or whoa I don't like to use any more collar than necessary so the 3 levels available in an instant are nice. Of course after the dogs is pretty much broke the level isn't quite so critical.

I can get "so called" dealer pricing through a warehouse on all collars but I don't think it's true wholesale. Still saves me some money and if any of my clients are looking for collars I try to save them a few bucks. A few times I've run a collar a couple years and then moved it to get into the next newer model. I guide upland about 60 days a season and I usually get to train about 100-150 days during the off season so I use them quite a bit.

I can get the DT's but have never tried them. I can't remember what their features are. I use Dogtra bird launchers and electronics. Beepers kept quiting on the TT receivers right after warranty was off. Got tired of buying them again every 2 years. DT might be worth a look if they have something new out. I just haven't paid much attention.

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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by Chaingang » Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:33 pm

When you have some time take a look at that link I provided. Take particular note of the section referring to "rise stimulation".

Evidently the new 2400 series has this "rise stimulation" feature which allows you to just hold down the button while the level increases. This would be a nice feature as it takes all of the guess work out and the dog complies when it reaches a level that gets his attention???

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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by JakeDD » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:42 am

Chain - no issues in cold weather at all. Used it with my DD last winter in subzero weather with zero problems.

Had my first outing this weekend where I can understand the beeper volume issue. Lost my pup in the woods a couple times Saturday and the wind was howling, really moving the trees. Couldn't hear the beeper (even on Hi vol) and it got me a bit nervous. I can see where the beeper on top would be a better design.

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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by SeventhSon » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:13 pm

Interesting to see this thread is still going strong.
Funny thing is, so is my Innotek collar, which is made even funnier by the fact that I saw this thread right after I bought it and thought I was hosed. 8)

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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by BigBoyTank » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:43 pm

seventhson consider yourself lucky. I went through 2 transmitters in 2 weeks then my collar crapped the bed. I went right out and bought a tritronics that im very happy with. My uncle on the other hand has bitten that bullet yet...he's gone through 3 collars and 2 transmitters He swear it's the last time :wink: . We shall see.....good luck GS4500 YIKES

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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by SeventhSon » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:19 am

BigBoyTank wrote:seventhson consider yourself lucky.
Hey even a broken clock is right twice a day. :lol:

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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by BigBoyTank » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:25 pm

touché :D

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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by Wildweeds » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:30 am

You really need to give it about.............18 months before you wipe the near miss sweat from your brow, that's when my "Jerk your chain" laid down the first time,then shortly thereafter it did the unexuseable nuclear meltdown shock on the dog and wouldn't quit until I removed the collar,this came from zero operator activation on my part.I put it away and GAVE the collars to my buddy.Bought me a TT sport 65,and a sport 50,cheap and easy,6 years later they still work and I've NEVER had a problem with either.
SeventhSon wrote:Interesting to see this thread is still going strong.
Funny thing is, so is my Innotek collar, which is made even funnier by the fact that I saw this thread right after I bought it and thought I was hosed. 8)

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Re: innotech Ecollars are junk

Post by natel24 » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:47 pm

i have an innotek contain n train system for keeping the dog in the yard the electric fence portion works fine but when you trying and use the collar for any training it is worthless as they get. never works, batteries always die in the remote too. for hunting and training i now use a sportdog 1800 and its perfect.
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