My H & R, which is the same thing as the current NEF, is close to 30 and still working.
Primer pistols are allowed. They are also MUCH cheaper and easier to get loads for.
If I were going to spend that much on a pistol I'd skip the NEF and get the Alpha.
When you lose a few pins and cylinders from the NEF it really starts to add up. CR
Well I guess I know a lot of really klutzy people because I know quite a few people who have lost multiple pins and multiple cylinders because when the pin falls out, the cylinder is free and can fall out!That is the knock on the NEF. You can drop the pin and lose it. Many companies include a pin protector that prevents that. I have never used a pin protector and in 26 years of heavy use I have never lost a pin. Also, you'd have to be quite the klutz to lose a cyllinder.
Well I guess I know a lot of really klutzy people because I know quite a few people who have lost multiple pins and multiple cylinders because when the pin falls out, the cylinder is free and can fall out!
The Alpha are really nice, but very expensive and about ever 2-4000 rounds the cylinder gets too much free play in it and it stops firing reliably
Neil Mace wrote:Does anyone know for sure if AKC has a formal position on primer guns?
WildRose wrote:Wynd what do you not like about it? I think they have one design flaw which I solved pretty easily. That's the fact the tolerances are so tight that they get dirty in a big hurry.
I just took a 1/8" drill bit and drilled a port hole back from the top of the bbl to the point where the firing cylinder meets the frame. Ten minutes worth of thinking, thirty seconds worth of work, many thousands of rounds through it with no failures.
No more problems. CR
Let me tell ya, there's a bunch of work in making a cylinder.
Yawallac wrote:Let me tell ya, there's a bunch of work in making a cylinder.
Dude, you have WAY too much time on your hands!!
phillipsgsp wrote:It would be nice to find out about the AKC's position on the 209's. There is alot of people using them, including me.
1-G Firing Blank. In any stake, except in puppy or derby stakes as specified in Procedures 1-A and 1-B, a blank cartridge must be fired by the handler over any dog on point after the game has been flushed. .22 caliber crimps shall not be used, and if shotguns with blank shells are to be permitted, the premium list must so specify. (Note: Shotguns with blank shells may be used in any retrieving stakes but only if the premium list specifies that blank shotguns may be used.) The handler must shoot within the time that would be required to kill a bird at natural shotgun range. Any deliberate delay in shooting must be severely
Neil Mace wrote:Dave,
But since a primer is plenty loud enough, I suspect you are right.
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