Words of Wisdom
Words of Wisdom
Might be cool if everyone shared a few words of wisdom in regards to training your dog. We all might pickup a few good hints????
Last edited by grant on Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Two days of training will be forfeited with two seconds of a lost temper.
- Steven
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Justus James Ayres SH CGC - Justus - Rest in Peace, buddy.
Wind River's JK Clara Belle - Belle
Wind River's JK Black Tie Affair - Tux
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Justus James Ayres SH CGC - Justus - Rest in Peace, buddy.
Wind River's JK Clara Belle - Belle
Wind River's JK Black Tie Affair - Tux
- tfbirddog2
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words of wisdom
Teach commands or try things three times and rewards of treats an praises along with everyone having fun, is better than beating a dead horse.
Words of Wisdom
RULES OF TRAINING
1- Dogs are pack animals. Be the leader.
2- Stop talking.
3- Be patient and consistent.
4- It takes birds to train a bird dog (no birds = no bird dog).
5- Quality dog work is not between you and your dog. It's between your dog and the bird.
6- Let your dog learn to manage the bird.
7- Instead of trying to get your dog to point, allow him to learn
he can't catch the bird. Staunch, stylish pointing will follow
naturally.
8- Don't teach whoa around birds. Whoa has nothing to do with
birds.
9- When working birds, your dog has not made a mistake until he puts a bird in the air.
10- The dog must know what the command means before he can be corrected for mistakes.
11- An electric collar is not used to teach a dog to perform a
command. It is used when the dog has a complete understanding of the command and chooses not to do it. An electric collar is for reinforcement only.
12- Give the command once, don't raise your voice, and always use a release command.
13- Never give a command you can't or won't enforce.
14- If you ignore or don't correct for an unwanted behavior, you are agreeing with and encouraging that behavior.
Our goal is to create a well mannered hunting partner that, through minimal pressure or correction, has maintained all his natural style, desire and birdiness.
Brad Higgins
Higgins Gun Dogs
1- Dogs are pack animals. Be the leader.
2- Stop talking.
3- Be patient and consistent.
4- It takes birds to train a bird dog (no birds = no bird dog).
5- Quality dog work is not between you and your dog. It's between your dog and the bird.
6- Let your dog learn to manage the bird.
7- Instead of trying to get your dog to point, allow him to learn
he can't catch the bird. Staunch, stylish pointing will follow
naturally.
8- Don't teach whoa around birds. Whoa has nothing to do with
birds.
9- When working birds, your dog has not made a mistake until he puts a bird in the air.
10- The dog must know what the command means before he can be corrected for mistakes.
11- An electric collar is not used to teach a dog to perform a
command. It is used when the dog has a complete understanding of the command and chooses not to do it. An electric collar is for reinforcement only.
12- Give the command once, don't raise your voice, and always use a release command.
13- Never give a command you can't or won't enforce.
14- If you ignore or don't correct for an unwanted behavior, you are agreeing with and encouraging that behavior.
Our goal is to create a well mannered hunting partner that, through minimal pressure or correction, has maintained all his natural style, desire and birdiness.
Brad Higgins
Higgins Gun Dogs
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I neve end a training r a hunt on a bad note. I always make sure the dog does somethign correctly before we are done. Even if that means the dog has to do something as simle as "sit" I always end on a good note.
My favorite thing to do is throwing tennis balls in a dimly lit yard and they get hot dogs upon retrieve.
My favorite thing to do is throwing tennis balls in a dimly lit yard and they get hot dogs upon retrieve.
Duane took mine
Duane took the single most important word when it comes to training dogs.
I guess I'll just add - never train angry. If you are getting frustrated or out of sorts, it's time to stop. Once you get angry, you can pretty much only do harm when it comes to dog training.
I guess I'll just add - never train angry. If you are getting frustrated or out of sorts, it's time to stop. Once you get angry, you can pretty much only do harm when it comes to dog training.
Dave as the old man told me 25 years ago:
"When your feeling frustrated or just plain POed go get the puppys and leave the big dogs alone that day. Cant nothin but bad happen to the big dogs and puppys are the best cure for a foul mood."
Same man who told me lack of patience has screwed up more dogs than any other tool ever has.
"When your feeling frustrated or just plain POed go get the puppys and leave the big dogs alone that day. Cant nothin but bad happen to the big dogs and puppys are the best cure for a foul mood."
Same man who told me lack of patience has screwed up more dogs than any other tool ever has.
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That one catches all of us. There's nothing more humbling than having to apologize to your dog, all the while they're giving you that "I told you so!" look.Sergeant Hunter wrote:Trust the DOG!
Several times this year both in training and in the field I have come up on my brittany on point and thought no way there can be a bird there, sure enough up it flies.
- Steven
Justus Kennels.com
Justus James Ayres SH CGC - Justus - Rest in Peace, buddy.
Wind River's JK Clara Belle - Belle
Wind River's JK Black Tie Affair - Tux
Justus Kennels.com
Justus James Ayres SH CGC - Justus - Rest in Peace, buddy.
Wind River's JK Clara Belle - Belle
Wind River's JK Black Tie Affair - Tux
Either do nothing or lightly positively reinforce. Pet on the head a couple times. Good boy. He did come back.
- Steven
Justus Kennels.com
Justus James Ayres SH CGC - Justus - Rest in Peace, buddy.
Wind River's JK Clara Belle - Belle
Wind River's JK Black Tie Affair - Tux
Justus Kennels.com
Justus James Ayres SH CGC - Justus - Rest in Peace, buddy.
Wind River's JK Clara Belle - Belle
Wind River's JK Black Tie Affair - Tux
A couple weeks ago my dog brought me a chukar.Deer Hunter wrote: Never punish your dog when he finally decides to come to you.
I had kicked up the planted bird and it flew a short distance into the woods. My dog remained steady while I fired a blank (I'm in the process of breaking her). I called her off and directed her to hunt the field we were working, which she did for about 50 yards before cutting right into the woods, round to my right, tracked the running bird out of sight for several minutes and delivered it to me. She was a bad dog, she did what I told her not to, she knew it, but I accepted the bird with a "good girl".
What else could I do?
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Use quality good flying birds for training, don't waste time with junky birds. Homers and launchers also work great. Wild birds are best.
Don't put your dog on birds everyday, once or twice a week is great. If you are breaking them maybe 3 or 4 days a week max. If they start getting bored take them off birds for a couple weeks. Just helps keep them intense.
Justin
Don't put your dog on birds everyday, once or twice a week is great. If you are breaking them maybe 3 or 4 days a week max. If they start getting bored take them off birds for a couple weeks. Just helps keep them intense.
Justin
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I will take it for this one.
Watch your dogs body language. The Pup will tell you alot.
Is he confused?
Does he get it?
Is he going to break?
Is he going to try to blow you off?
Has he had enough?
Short successfull training sessions make a confident dog.
If you are hitting a wall, go back a few training sessions and do something that your pup understands and does. End on a good note. Then try again in a 2 or 3 days later and the light will usually come on.
Make sure you go to the bathroom before you go afield. No sense in hurrying things.![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Is he confused?
Does he get it?
Is he going to break?
Is he going to try to blow you off?
Has he had enough?
Short successfull training sessions make a confident dog.
If you are hitting a wall, go back a few training sessions and do something that your pup understands and does. End on a good note. Then try again in a 2 or 3 days later and the light will usually come on.
Make sure you go to the bathroom before you go afield. No sense in hurrying things.
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The best part of training is seeing the light come on in your little prot'eg'e.
Rick
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Something Good
I have found that when you put a foot in the stirrup and get up on a horse to handle, 30 minutes or 1 hour or 3 hours.
"I will be totally devoted to the dog, nothing else" not a time to visit, talk or whatever, totally devoted to what "your" dog is doing.
Pepper
"I will be totally devoted to the dog, nothing else" not a time to visit, talk or whatever, totally devoted to what "your" dog is doing.
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Jeremiah 29:11
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Patience man, patience!
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It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
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It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
Don't spray on bugspray right after you shave!
(Happened to my legs yesterday, ouch)
(Happened to my legs yesterday, ouch)
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Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for word what you shouldn't have said.
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Gee I do that all the time and hadn't noticed a problem!
Ezzy
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It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=207
It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
I have no word's of wisdom. I'd have to credit other's for what ever it is I think I know. But one of my favorite's I read in Amer field and is a quote of Dr. Alvin Nitchman.
He was watching a handler (?) screaming whoa at his dog that was busy running off. He turned to the guy next to him and said"
"I wonder what he tell's that dog when he want's it to stop and stand still"? Think about it.
A hint from Delmar: "pay attention to what your training".
He was watching a handler (?) screaming whoa at his dog that was busy running off. He turned to the guy next to him and said"
"I wonder what he tell's that dog when he want's it to stop and stand still"? Think about it.
A hint from Delmar: "pay attention to what your training".
Never set your dog up to fail - Delmar smith
The greatest room in the world is the room for improvement - William F. Brown
Some people think to much like people and not enough like dogs!
The greatest room in the world is the room for improvement - William F. Brown
Some people think to much like people and not enough like dogs!
It is o.k. to loose a battle every now and again as long as you win the war.
An ol'timer once told me," You can always give a dog brakes but you can't always give'em gas."![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
An ol'timer once told me," You can always give a dog brakes but you can't always give'em gas."
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