Liberty eats Addiction (Viva La Venison) right now; but she will be switching to raw soon.
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People on the East Coast are willing to spend more on pet food, just the way it is. The irony is that the cheaper brands are special order and the high dollar foods fill the shelves. My local place carries a dozen complete raw brands and probably half dozen dehydrated formulas that you mix with water like Cup O Soup.kninebirddog wrote:Cajun Sorry but under health and nutrition there is 16 posts directly related to feed on page one which 6 are 2 or more pages![]()
and I like how we start with a high dollar food headed towards raw.
Do your dogs come to?Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:Dang could you adopt me I could eat steak everyday cheaper then that.Oh by the way I have a Bridge in the Desert I'd like to sell!!
I feed the sportmix 24/20 formula year around. It does a great job. I have fed it for several years, 22.00 dollars for 55 poundsVonzeppelinkennels wrote:She gets PPP when she's trialing with her handler but when shes home she gets Sportmix 24/20 & does fine but don't get worked like trialing.That's $24.99 a 50 lb bag what all my dogs eat & do fine 2 to 4 cups a day depending on the dog.You must have one HIGH Power F Brit with high Metabolism.
Similar story: had the dog on Exceed but despite feeding him waaay to much of it he still looked skinny & undernourished. Switched him to Innova EVO turkey/chicken & not only is his coat even better, but he put on not just weight but muscle. Also liked the fact that it has a high protein content (approx 43%) and grainless.ekoog82 wrote:Nutro lamb and rice, was started on pedigree and had some issues with his coat and skin. Switched over and he looks great now. Also wanted something that didn't have corn in it. May switch to something different once he is I. The field more with a higher protein ratio
Hmmm, I wonder why that is?slistoe wrote:Kelsey, have you noticed that the folks that demand the absolute most from their dogs feed "normal" dog foods?
Care to explain this remark? Or are you just itching to be a troll?slistoe wrote:Kelsey, have you noticed that the folks that demand the absolute most from their dogs feed "normal" dog foods?
And there it is... <sigh>slistoe wrote:Designer dog foods are for the benefit of the owner, not the dog.
Could the same be said then for "Performance" dog foods geared towards sporting and working dogs?..i see alot of people with hunting dogs that use these Performance foods but why not just use "normal" dog food? i have to say that some, not all, but some dogs foods do indeed advertise because they are what they say they are and this benefits the dogs since they are the ones eating it..my dog eats no wheat, corn or soy food and does well because of it, if i put him on proplan that my other dogs eat he would be dead in no time, so i have to respectfully say that some foods benefit the dog, not the owner since they are usually more expensive....ruthslistoe wrote:Designer dog foods are for the benefit of the owner, not the dog.
Active Adult? That is a good food. It is the orphan formula from the Innova-Evo company. It is cheaper than Pro Plan Perf. in NJ and twice as good according to a few people I know.Crashola wrote:It's been kind of a journey for me and my dog. She was on Healthwise Chicken Meal & Oatmeal which was great stuff and our trainer sold it to me for $27. The problem is that he lives almost an hour away and the local pet food store sells the same bag for $40! Switched to Kirkland Chicken & Rice, good stuff but it gives her room-clearing gas. When in Costco this weekend, I picked up a bag of Nature's Domain Turkey and Sweet Potato -- which is their grain-free feed and only costs $29 for a 35 lb bag. We'll see how she does on it.
What is a normal dog food? Purina dog chow?GUNDOGS wrote:Could the same be said then for "Performance" dog foods geared towards sporting and working dogs?..i see alot of people with hunting dogs that use these Performance foods but why not just use "normal" dog food? i have to say that some, not all, but some dogs foods do indeed advertise because they are what they say they are and this benefits the dogs since they are the ones eating it..my dog eats no wheat, corn or soy food and does well because of it, if i put him on proplan that my other dogs eat he would be dead in no time, so i have to respectfully say that some foods benefit the dog, not the owner since they are usually more expensive....ruthslistoe wrote:Designer dog foods are for the benefit of the owner, not the dog.
Fordman, i was referring to this quote from slistoe, and that was my point, most if not all dog foods use some sort of advertising or as some call it gimmicks to "claim" something about their food in order to out sell other brands and/or appeal to a certain group of people, but in some of those "claims" there is indeed facts and a need for that food..for example people have said i buy into gimmicks or designer dog food by buying food with no corn, wheat and soy but then they go and buy "performance"or "platinum" foods, i call that suckin and blowin....ruthslistoe wrote:Kelsey, have you noticed that the folks that demand the absolute most from their dogs feed "normal" dog foods?
Really. Your dog would be dead if it ate proplan?GUNDOGS wrote:my dog eats no wheat, corn or soy food and does well because of it, if i put him on proplan that my other dogs eat he would be dead in no time,
Actually, I had her on Active Adult during the hunting season and moved her to the regular Healthwise when things slowed down. I liked both of them a lot. And her trainer loves it -- he switched from Canidae a while back. Although I was picking up three bags at a time for two dogs, it was still too much of a hassle for me to make a two-hour round trip for dog food. And the local specialty shop marked it up over 50% higher than he charged me.mcbosco wrote:Active Adult? That is a good food. It is the orphan formula from the Innova-Evo company. It is cheaper than Pro Plan Perf. in NJ and twice as good according to a few people I know.
Good value.
That's too bad. That is a good formula just poorly marketed by Natura. I get my food at a big discount to retail too from a local musher. It is a great thing!!!Crashola wrote:Actually, I had her on Active Adult during the hunting season and moved her to the regular Healthwise when things slowed down. I liked both of them a lot. And her trainer loves it -- he switched from Canidae a while back. Although I was picking up three bags at a time for two dogs, it was still too much of a hassle for me to make a two-hour round trip for dog food. And the local specialty shop marked it up over 50% higher than he charged me.mcbosco wrote:Active Adult? That is a good food. It is the orphan formula from the Innova-Evo company. It is cheaper than Pro Plan Perf. in NJ and twice as good according to a few people I know.
Good value.
No kidding. But for the recommendation from the trainer, I probably never would have heard of Healthwise.mcbosco wrote: That's too bad. That is a good formula just poorly marketed by Natura. I get my food at a big discount to retail too from a local musher. It is a great thing!!!
Yes he would be dead in no time, i used proplan as an example only because its what my other dogs are fed and do quite well on..he was to the point of being put down, his hair was falling out, he was thin, his feet were bloody from chewing, he had bad diarrhea, his ears were inflammed and full of wax and the list goes on..after many tests and vet visits he was put on a no chicken, no corn, no wheat, no soy diet, with rosemary as a natural preservative and bam within weeks he was a new dog..i have to agree that a normally healthy animal may not have any GREATER nutritional requirements than dogs on a top field trial string, in a large hunting operation or dogs in research trials but they definitley may have DIFFERENT nutritional requirements, i say this because if all dogs had the same requirements as those examples you gave we would all use the same feed as they do and it would be good enough for all of our dogs..each dog is an individual and each dog has different nutitional requirements even though they are perfectly healthy, thats why so many people on this forum have said they have had to switch foods on a number of occassions, they are already feeding a good quality food such as proplan or diamond but their normal healthy dog just doesnt seem to do well on it so they try something else and the proof is the results for each animal....ruthslistoe wrote:Really. Your dog would be dead if it ate proplan?GUNDOGS wrote:my dog eats no wheat, corn or soy food and does well because of it, if i put him on proplan that my other dogs eat he would be dead in no time,
There are dogs that have a legitimate medical problem requiring a special diet. But otherwise I would say your dog is doing well in spite of it. Guaranteed that if your dog is a normally healthy animal it does not have any greater nutritional requirements than the dogs on a top field trial pros string or the string in a large hunting operation, or the dogs in the research trials that developed the formulas.
Slistoe, a little food for thought on why PPP is a bad deal for some people. It is $45 a bag near me for 37.5lbs, so $1.2lb. Blue Seal Performance is $30 for 40lbs, so $.75lb, 12th bag free on top of that.slistoe wrote:Really. Your dog would be dead if it ate proplan?GUNDOGS wrote:my dog eats no wheat, corn or soy food and does well because of it, if i put him on proplan that my other dogs eat he would be dead in no time,
There are dogs that have a legitimate medical problem requiring a special diet. But otherwise I would say your dog is doing well in spite of it. Guaranteed that if your dog is a normally healthy animal it does not have any greater nutritional requirements than the dogs on a top field trial pros string or the string in a large hunting operation, or the dogs in the research trials that developed the formulas.
It's made by Kent, so is Native... Have you compared the two?Blue Seal Performance
Dog owners have different requirements, it is seldom the dog unless you have one like you have. And most feeds are so similar that there is very little difference in them. They all have to meet the same requirements of what has been established the dog needs fro normal nutrition. The differences are in the formulations and even those are pretty much alike with just a enough difference to provide a marketing program or to fit a different lifestyle such as a field dog compared to your typical lap dog. Its very much like which car gives you the best ride? Each owner has an opinion but the differences are pretty minor.GUNDOGS wrote:slistoe wrote:GUNDOGS wrote: i say this because if all dogs had the same requirements as those examples you gave we would all use the same feed as they do and it would be good enough for all of our dogs..each dog is an individual and each dog has different nutitional requirements even though they are perfectly healthy, thats why so many people on this forum have said they have had to switch foods on a number of occassions, they are already feeding a good quality food such as proplan or diamond but their normal healthy dog just doesnt seem to do well on it so they try something else and the proof is the results for each animal....ruth
Yeah Kent bought Blue Seal a while ago. Native Level 3 is $40 at the same place Blue Seal is sold by me. Native is a good food, far better ingredients than PPP for less money as well.Red wrote:It's made by Kent, so is Native... Have you compared the two?Blue Seal Performance