Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:I may be mistaken but I think this is the same guy who was telling us about how much obedience he had been doing with his pup a few months ago,if that is the case it's no surprise he is still wanting the pup to pay attention to him instead of hunting.Control,Control,Control !!
But it's his pup, would have been cheaper to buy a remote controled pup at the toy store.
No more replies from me,won't change or help a thing.
He asked you to "take it down a step not because he didn't want your wisdom but because your tone and attitude was rude .
He's not the 'same guy". He's a member asking a good question that folks who haven't had a lot of dogs ask., as Mr Cooper and Ezzy said,
He doesn't care about people's hangups about big / short running dogs. He asked what to do to control the range of his dog. He deserved a straight, respectful answer.
MLK: See the posts below on how to turn your dog. That's your best advice.
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by jforgey » Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:12 pm
Mik,
I have a male GSP that I can successfully handle at 30-40 yards using a whistle. While it's true that Pointers are big running dogs, there is nothing more important than the dog hunting for you. I hunt pheasant in South Dakota a couple times each year (I was raised there). A big running Pointer out there will bust a hundred birds. What a site that is, literally hundreds of pheasants taking flight 75 - 100 yards ahead of you. What do you do then fellas????? Leave your gun in the truck and break out the camera. On a serious note, the dog is yours, and like you, my desire is to hunt with my dog as a team. He works for me and I work for him. On my most recent South Dakota trip last month, my year-old GSP pointed more than 40 birds...all within gun range (I shot 9 roosters that he had pointed). I haven't read all of this post, but I do have a couple of suggestions. Get him in the field as often as you can. Birds or no birds. Does he quarter for you? If not teach him to quarter and to follow your direction. I suggest a whistle. I use the whistle and verbal communications both. If the dog is quartering in a field and I want him to turn, I give him two peeps or tell him, "come 'round." If he gets to the range limit I set, I give two peeps. If he gets lax with this and tests my range limit I will give two peeps with a light collar stimulation (although I won't stimulate if he is tracking a running bird, no matter how far out he goes). If he continues to want to range too far, I will call him back and refocus him for a minute or so. Maybe give him a treat or toss a bumper. Just a reminder to him that he is having fun with ME! The most important thing I have done with my dog is to develop our relationship. He goes to the field with me, he hunts with me (even if others are present), every bird he retrieves he brings to me, and he listens to me because that is our relationship. Don't give up. Just a comment to some of the others that have replied to your question. Most of you guys are seasoned Pointer owners and I appreciate your experience. But, guys like MIK are not as experienced, but they want to have a good experience with their dog. It might be worthwhile to consider this when you reply to some of these posts. Just a thought.
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by ACooper » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:35 am
The problem is the OP didn't ask what a "good range" or what everyone feels is a good range. He asked how to control HIS dogs range. Most people here will agree that as a persons experience level goes up so does the comfort level with a dog that runs bigger and bigger, but most people have to experience that for themselves and it takes time.
Mik good luck with your dog, do yourself a favor and don't just hack and shock the dog until it shortens up, I assume that you have not been doing that. Teach the dog to turn on a whistle/voice and "handle" him more, this should with a little work keep him shortened up. You will as you go become more comfortable want the dog to extend his search and you can do this with less handling.
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