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SwitchGrassWPG wrote:Don't forgo a lower level test because you think your dog is capable of passing a higher level.
Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:Here is another reason from what I understand if you start at a higher level & your dog can't or don't pass you can't go down to a lower level.
I have never been to a hunt test so can't swear to that but is my understanding.
phermes1 wrote:I'm pretty sure they have recently changed that. You're now able to drop down to SH even if you have MH legs, or even a MH title.
SubMariner wrote:Ok... officially confused now.Can you find out which is true now?
phermes1 wrote:SubMariner wrote:Ok... officially confused now.Can you find out which is true now?
Do your own legwork, lady.
Yes, I'm pretty sure I'm right. There was an announcement recently from AKC. The reasoning was that some folks might have finished MH's that are older, that they still want to have fun with, but maybe don't have the dog at that level of training anymore. They can now enter the dog in pretty much anything.
As far as MHA, SHA, etc - I asked Gary Sadler about it, and he said they're still working out the details. The leading idea right now is to raise the bar on qualifications, vs just making it a matter of getting more legs.
For instance, instead of requiring an average of a 7 to pass, you would need to average an 8.
Plus - when all the dogs are run, they will take the scores, toss out the highest and lowest scores, and average the rest. Your dog will have to beat that average as well in order to get an MHA/SHA/JHA leg.
At least, that's one of the preliminary plans as of now. It could change by the time things are implemented Feb 1, so don't take it as bible. Gary was pretty clear that they hadn't finalized anything yet.
JMHO, but I'm going to guess that anyone that has been racking up MH legs in anticipation of applying them towards an MHA title is going to be SOL. Like the GCH title, I'm guessing everyone will have to start from scratch.
Coveyrise64 wrote:It's not raising the bar, it's raising more money. Both of my dogs scored 8's on several of their MH test. Why would I want to repeat the process. No thanks, I'll stick with the MH and NAVHDA Utility Test/VC. After this debacle I might even drop the AKC Tests and stay with NAVHDA. If I going to spend the extra entry fees I'd rather run NSTRA.
phermes1 wrote:SubMariner wrote:Ok... officially confused now.Can you find out which is true now?
Do your own legwork, lady.
Yes, I'm pretty sure I'm right. There was an announcement recently from AKC. The reasoning was that some folks might have finished MH's that are older, that they still want to have fun with, but maybe don't have the dog at that level of training anymore. They can now enter the dog in pretty much anything.
As far as MHA, SHA, etc - I asked Gary Sadler about it, and he said they're still working out the details. The leading idea right now is to raise the bar on qualifications, vs just making it a matter of getting more legs.
For instance, instead of requiring an average of a 7 to pass, you would need to average an 8.
Plus - when all the dogs are run, they will take the scores, toss out the highest and lowest scores, and average the rest. Your dog will have to beat that average as well in order to get an MHA/SHA/JHA leg.
At least, that's one of the preliminary plans as of now. It could change by the time things are implemented Feb 1, so don't take it as bible. Gary was pretty clear that they hadn't finalized anything yet.
JMHO, but I'm going to guess that anyone that has been racking up MH legs in anticipation of applying them towards an MHA title is going to be SOL. Like the GCH title, I'm guessing everyone will have to start from scratch.
snips wrote:Rick just finished a SH, the dog only got 3 JH legs. He went into Sr and got 4 legs, went into JH and got the last leg which finished both titles...............He did it after he asked Gary if it would work....
snips wrote:Rick just finished a SH, the dog only got 3 JH legs. He went into Sr and got 4 legs, went into JH and got the last leg which finished both titles...............He did it after he asked Gary if it would work....
ultracarry wrote:The only thing I could think of is getting a certificate from AKC but then again if the SH was already issued I wouldn't think so. AKC does track how many passes you get on a dog.
I might try for a JH advanced to go with my MH. Gotta start somewhere.
birddog1968 wrote:Nstra isn't a test its a trial.
Ryan wrote:Just be quiet and let the dog work. The dog cant disobey commands if you are not giving them.
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