12 0r 20??
12 0r 20??
I have a Nova pump in 12 guage that I use for waterfowl but im thinking of getting an upland gun OU or S/S for grouse,chucker and quail and maybe an occational Pheasant. Would you get a 12 or 20?
A 20 chambered for 3" shells.
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I would say 20 ga., and have great success with it, but in the latest magazine I read (F&S or Outdoor Life, can't remember) there was an article about a gun dealer and his tips. He said that the best deals can be found on 12 gauge guns nowadays because 20's and 16's are becoming more and more popular. And, really, a 12 ga. gun with a 7/8 oz light load will work just as well as a 20 ga. with a 7/8 oz load.
Don't get me wrong. I like my 20 ga. and will probably stick with 20 ga. guns myself, but if you're looking to get a deal don't overlook the common 12 ga.
(Another thing to think about, is that if you already have a 12 ga Nova then you won't have to go out and buy two different gauges of ammo)
Don't get me wrong. I like my 20 ga. and will probably stick with 20 ga. guns myself, but if you're looking to get a deal don't overlook the common 12 ga.
(Another thing to think about, is that if you already have a 12 ga Nova then you won't have to go out and buy two different gauges of ammo)
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I prefer my 20 gauge, at least until I want to drop some Benjamin's for a 28 gauge. I used to hunt with a 12 gauge, I did not switch because I was blowing animals apart I just wanted a lighter gun to carry in the field, hence the 20 gauge Beretta. Also my dad shoots a 20 so we can give shells to each other in the field if we need to and we only have to carry one gauge of shells on trips rather than two. Supposedly we split a case of shells but the last 3 years I remember buying the shells and giving him half the case but I don't remember seeing any money back on it. Guess he's paying me back for the younger years of my life.
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I like the lite 12's. I'm shooting a Ruger Gold Label sxs right now and love it. Here's the thing with a 12 like this. A 12 is the most versatile gun out there. You can by light loads, one ouncers so it's like a 20, or get a set of Gauge Mate Gold 20 adapters so you can shoot 20's in it, or get heavy loads for Pheasant. I like carrying one gun and I like the versatility of the 12.
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Thats why I like the twenty plus the lighter gun is much nicer to carry.I like carrying one gun and I like the versatility of the 12.
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Ezzy; that's the other thing. I don't like really lite guns. I prefer that they weigh in around 6 1/4-6 1/2 #. I have guns lighter than that and they feel too "whippy", the follow through isn't as good or as easy with the light guns. I just got a new CZA Bobwhite 20 and I got it for two reasons: It weighed to the ounce what my Gl does and it was cheap. The weight thing is all personal preference, same as barrel length.
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I own both, and I shoot 90% of my wild birds with the 12 gauge. If I am training dogs, gunning for a trial or a test, or guiding on the game farm, I will use the 20.
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in my opinion, 20 is better
I would have to say 20, reduced recoil and lighter to carry in the field. Mine was cheaper than a 12 too.
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Depending on the part of the country you are in the great deals are because you can't get rid of them or buy shells. They are still popular down south but in other places they are basically gone.
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It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
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Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
I remember walking into a Scheel's store a few years ago and finding more 16 gauge shotguns than boxes of 16 gauge ammo. The guns sat on the shelf for quite a while...ezzy333 wrote:Depending on the part of the country you are in the great deals are because you can't get rid of them or buy shells. They are still popular down south but in other places they are basically gone.
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You must be getting fairly close to Champaighn-Urbana and are near at least to some of the only pheasant hunting in IL.
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omega58 wrote:I have the answer to this one. . .go with the 12 AND 20.
Remember this please: YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY SHOTGUNS
We need to remind our wives of this as much as possible.
oh yeah, and they are an investment as well.
.. ...or musclecars..or camo......or...jeeps...or maybe tools.......oh...and turkey calls....
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yeah, i live north of champaign about 1 hour, and my bird hunting isn't bad. i live in the country so i got plenty of room to go hunting about my back door.
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omega58 wrote:I have the answer to this one. . .go with the 12 AND 20.
Remember this please: YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY SHOTGUNS
We need to remind our wives of this as much as possible.
oh yeah, and they are an investment as well.
you are right.for bigger birds go with 12 ga like BERETTA URICKA FIELD
smaller birds,go with 20ga like FRANCHI AL48.
i only rec semi-autos.
Re: 12 0r 20??
Go with the 16 ga. Plenty of shells out there i've got enough to last me several year.
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Re: 12 0r 20??
I've always had 12 gauges. I've had all different makes and models but everyone knows I am Team Benelli all the way. My staple for hunting has and always will be a 12. However, I recently added my 28 to the cabinet. I love it. You'll never get tired carrying around a 4.9 pound shotgun.
In sum, go check one out. Don't overlook the 28.
In sum, go check one out. Don't overlook the 28.
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Re: 12 0r 20??
If you can find a light 12 then don't feel it is too much gun. Don't forget it also can shoot 7/8, 1, 1 1/8, 1 1/4 ounce loads just like a 20g. and 16g. but can also go up from there. If you plan on doing any waterfowl hunting this makes a big difference.
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Re: 12 0r 20??
Since you already own a 12 gauge pump, which is as versatile as it gets i am totally on board with a double gun 20 gauge as a upland gun. I use a 20 sxs for all my upland hunting...pheasants,chukars,huns,quail. I break the 12 out for waterfowl.
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Re: 12 0r 20??
Depending on how much you have to spend you could also consider a O/U with both sets of barrels. Several manufacturers have12/20 combos available.
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Re: 12 0r 20??
The statement way: an upland O/U or a Side by Side---would you get a 12 or a 20??
I would get a 20. That being said a cheap 20 that weighs as much as a 12, whats the point?
Make sure your 20 is a true 20 on a smaller and lighter frame not just a set of 20ga barells on a 12 frame.
Have fun!!
CRH
I would get a 20. That being said a cheap 20 that weighs as much as a 12, whats the point?
Make sure your 20 is a true 20 on a smaller and lighter frame not just a set of 20ga barells on a 12 frame.
Have fun!!
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Re: 12 0r 20??
Stump,
NJ GSP said the magic words, 16 Gauge is the gun you want to hunt upland game with most of the time. Look around for a good old Fox or L.C. Smith 16 Gauge double gun.
Hits like a 12, carries like a 20. Pick up a 20 gauge later on.
You can have great 16 Gauge shells delivered right to your door, from Lion Country Also.
RGD/Dave
NJ GSP said the magic words, 16 Gauge is the gun you want to hunt upland game with most of the time. Look around for a good old Fox or L.C. Smith 16 Gauge double gun.
Hits like a 12, carries like a 20. Pick up a 20 gauge later on.
You can have great 16 Gauge shells delivered right to your door, from Lion Country Also.
RGD/Dave